Father Touch |
1999
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Published on Bandcamp on July 18, 2021
Note that Jesus Freak and the songs within the WZZD Interview are removed |
This release was part of the package given to those who joined the Phydeaux Phan Klubb
Note that the WZZD interview has not yet been fully transcribed
Disc 1
Note that the WZZD interview has not yet been fully transcribed
Disc 1
father of all
[Go to Song Page]
When I'm tired from the journey and the road seems long
And I fear that I'm losing my way
Let my heart keep turning toward your love so strong
Help me walk from the darkness into day
Father, I give you my life
Jesus, I give you my soul
Spirit, I give you my will
And I submit my control
Father of all
Saviour of all
Spirit of all
I give my all to thee [x2]
When I'm filled with sorrow and burdened with shame
And my soul is stricken with regret
Let me walk toward tomorrow singing praises to your name
Let me not your true love to forget
Father, I give you my life
Jesus, I give you my soul
Spirit, I give you my will
And I submit my control
Father of all
Saviour of all
Spirit of all
I give my all to thee [x2]
When I'm tired from the journey and the road seems long
And I fear that I'm losing my way
Let my heart keep turning toward your love so strong
Help me walk from my darkness into day
Father, I give you my life
Jesus, I give you my soul
Spirit, I give you my will, yes I do
And I submit my control
Father of all
Saviour of all
Spirit of all
I give my all to thee [x2]
When I'm tired from the journey and the road seems long
And I fear that I'm losing my way
Let my heart keep turning toward your love so strong
Help me walk from the darkness into day
Father, I give you my life
Jesus, I give you my soul
Spirit, I give you my will
And I submit my control
Father of all
Saviour of all
Spirit of all
I give my all to thee [x2]
When I'm filled with sorrow and burdened with shame
And my soul is stricken with regret
Let me walk toward tomorrow singing praises to your name
Let me not your true love to forget
Father, I give you my life
Jesus, I give you my soul
Spirit, I give you my will
And I submit my control
Father of all
Saviour of all
Spirit of all
I give my all to thee [x2]
When I'm tired from the journey and the road seems long
And I fear that I'm losing my way
Let my heart keep turning toward your love so strong
Help me walk from my darkness into day
Father, I give you my life
Jesus, I give you my soul
Spirit, I give you my will, yes I do
And I submit my control
Father of all
Saviour of all
Spirit of all
I give my all to thee [x2]
dark passage
[Go to Song Page]
Twenty some odd years ago
I fell and missed the moon
I guess I must have reached too high
I guess it was too soon
For me to understand the loss
That I would travel with
And how my path would wander
As I struggled with the myth
That love is what you make it
And your hope must never cease
So that all the love you give away
Will secure a house of peace
As the harbour fall covered the ship
I strode out for a walk
A man in black came up to me
And he began to talk
He said son you are so far away
You must find the strength to move
Closer to your destiny
You've nothing else to prove
Reach out and touch the future
Look for the open door
Then his image slowly faded
And I saw him nevermore
I didn't understand him
I was so much younger then
I didn't have the courage
You expect from older men
I was tired from my long journey
Just returning from the wars
Where the dark angels had wounded me
'Til I couldn't stand no more
When I met the woman meant for me
I couldn't look her in the eye
And I kept my feelings to myself
As she turned and said goodbye
Well there's a world of wicked people
Who will take all that you own
They will strip you of your heart and flesh
And discard your sacred bones
They will tie you down with lies and schemes
And say that you can't leave
But they will bury you in lawyers
'Til you cannot even breathe
They will try hard to destroy you
But if you watch then you will see
They have no real imagination
And they lack true charity
She was young when I first met her
But she seemed as old as me
And I kicked the stones beneath my feet
And spoke too quietly
She couldn't hear my heartbeat
Or see my flashing eyes
I was fearful in her presence
I thought she'd see through my disguise
She knew how much I loved her
And she'd feed my every thought
But she was too much busy thinking
Of all the rules that she'd been taught
When I look up at the stars
And I see the depth of night
I stare solemn at creation
And the moon's reflected light
It takes its brightness from the sun
It has no power of its own
And that's how I sometimes see myself
A man on whom love once had shone
There's a castle standing on a hill
In a far and distant place
I could lock myself inside it
But I still would see her face
There is no one in this dark world
Who can give the love she needs
I feel her sadness in my spirit
And her wounds from which love bleeds
I can almost hear her crying
I know what she's thinking of
But sometimes I still wonder if
She's better off without my love
My death is moving toward me
Though it still seems miles away
It's almost reached me several times
In it's bed I'll someday lay
And sometimes at night I'm sleeping
I think I hear her call my name
And I sit up and reach out for her
But it's always just the same
Her touch is far beyond my reach
Because I was so young and blind
But she'll always be the one I love
The one I left behind
Wah wah wah wah wah wah
Wah wah wah
Woh woh woh woh
Oh woh woh woh woh
Twenty some odd years ago
I fell and missed the moon
I guess I must have reached too high
I guess it was too soon
For me to understand the loss
That I would travel with
And how my path would wander
As I struggled with the myth
That love is what you make it
And your hope must never cease
So that all the love you give away
Will secure a house of peace
As the harbour fall covered the ship
I strode out for a walk
A man in black came up to me
And he began to talk
He said son you are so far away
You must find the strength to move
Closer to your destiny
You've nothing else to prove
Reach out and touch the future
Look for the open door
Then his image slowly faded
And I saw him nevermore
I didn't understand him
I was so much younger then
I didn't have the courage
You expect from older men
I was tired from my long journey
Just returning from the wars
Where the dark angels had wounded me
'Til I couldn't stand no more
When I met the woman meant for me
I couldn't look her in the eye
And I kept my feelings to myself
As she turned and said goodbye
Well there's a world of wicked people
Who will take all that you own
They will strip you of your heart and flesh
And discard your sacred bones
They will tie you down with lies and schemes
And say that you can't leave
But they will bury you in lawyers
'Til you cannot even breathe
They will try hard to destroy you
But if you watch then you will see
They have no real imagination
And they lack true charity
She was young when I first met her
But she seemed as old as me
And I kicked the stones beneath my feet
And spoke too quietly
She couldn't hear my heartbeat
Or see my flashing eyes
I was fearful in her presence
I thought she'd see through my disguise
She knew how much I loved her
And she'd feed my every thought
But she was too much busy thinking
Of all the rules that she'd been taught
When I look up at the stars
And I see the depth of night
I stare solemn at creation
And the moon's reflected light
It takes its brightness from the sun
It has no power of its own
And that's how I sometimes see myself
A man on whom love once had shone
There's a castle standing on a hill
In a far and distant place
I could lock myself inside it
But I still would see her face
There is no one in this dark world
Who can give the love she needs
I feel her sadness in my spirit
And her wounds from which love bleeds
I can almost hear her crying
I know what she's thinking of
But sometimes I still wonder if
She's better off without my love
My death is moving toward me
Though it still seems miles away
It's almost reached me several times
In it's bed I'll someday lay
And sometimes at night I'm sleeping
I think I hear her call my name
And I sit up and reach out for her
But it's always just the same
Her touch is far beyond my reach
Because I was so young and blind
But she'll always be the one I love
The one I left behind
Wah wah wah wah wah wah
Wah wah wah
Woh woh woh woh
Oh woh woh woh woh
i need a touch
[Go to Song Page]
Oh
It's a mighty tough world
Yes it is
I need a touch of sanity
When the world goes mad
I need a lot less vanity
About the life I've had
I need a touch of inspiration
I need the, a steady hand of peace
I need more strength and when the darkness comes
I need a sword to kill the beast
I need a touch (I need a touch) [x7]
I need a touch
I need a touch more of healing, yeah
To keep my body strong, ah ha
I need to ask forgiveness, mmm hmm
If I do something wrong
I need a touch more resolution
So I can stay close to the light
I need to know each time you want me to
Turn my cheek or stand and fight
I need a touch (I need a touch) [x7]
I need a touch
I need a touch of hope and courage
When I am in the lion's cage
I need a touch of strength and wisdom
Each time the firestorm starts to rage
I need a touch right now of mercy
I need a touch of saving grace
I need a touch of hope and fearlessness
So I can look death in the face
Yes I need a touch of, more sanity
I need a, a lot more love
I need a little more humanity
To get me through when times are tough
I need a touch more diligence
To do the work that must be done
I need a touch more of longsuffering
For all my days under the sun
I need a touch (I need a touch) [x7]
I need a touch
I need a touch of courage
When I am in the lion's cage
I need a touch of wisdom
Each time the firestorm starts to rage
I need to keep my wits about me
I need to open up my eyes
To know the difference between faith and fraud
And separate the truth from lies
I need a touch (I need a touch) [x4]
I need a touch (I need a touch, I need a touch)
I need a touch (I need a touch)
I need a touch
Yeah
I need a touch (I need a touch) [x7]
I need a touch
(I need a touch) I need a touch [x3]
(I need a touch) Yeah, yes I do
(I need a touch) I need a touch [x2]
(I need a touch) You know I need a touch
Oh
It's a mighty tough world
Yes it is
I need a touch of sanity
When the world goes mad
I need a lot less vanity
About the life I've had
I need a touch of inspiration
I need the, a steady hand of peace
I need more strength and when the darkness comes
I need a sword to kill the beast
I need a touch (I need a touch) [x7]
I need a touch
I need a touch more of healing, yeah
To keep my body strong, ah ha
I need to ask forgiveness, mmm hmm
If I do something wrong
I need a touch more resolution
So I can stay close to the light
I need to know each time you want me to
Turn my cheek or stand and fight
I need a touch (I need a touch) [x7]
I need a touch
I need a touch of hope and courage
When I am in the lion's cage
I need a touch of strength and wisdom
Each time the firestorm starts to rage
I need a touch right now of mercy
I need a touch of saving grace
I need a touch of hope and fearlessness
So I can look death in the face
Yes I need a touch of, more sanity
I need a, a lot more love
I need a little more humanity
To get me through when times are tough
I need a touch more diligence
To do the work that must be done
I need a touch more of longsuffering
For all my days under the sun
I need a touch (I need a touch) [x7]
I need a touch
I need a touch of courage
When I am in the lion's cage
I need a touch of wisdom
Each time the firestorm starts to rage
I need to keep my wits about me
I need to open up my eyes
To know the difference between faith and fraud
And separate the truth from lies
I need a touch (I need a touch) [x4]
I need a touch (I need a touch, I need a touch)
I need a touch (I need a touch)
I need a touch
Yeah
I need a touch (I need a touch) [x7]
I need a touch
(I need a touch) I need a touch [x3]
(I need a touch) Yeah, yes I do
(I need a touch) I need a touch [x2]
(I need a touch) You know I need a touch
feed the poor
[Go to Song Page]
Hey I, I lost my harmonica Albert
Okay, this is a song I'm just working on uh
I've just got Larry on the left channel
You got, in the left side? Go hold on a second. Twist to the right there. Can you, you can hear the guitar?
There we go
Okay [Clears throat]
Yeah, let's see what tape. Tape, tape the tapes this time. Okay [Spoken]
Okay
Okay, count it off Kenny Bam Boom
One two three four [Spoken]
You gotta feed the poor
You must obey
When Jesus asks you if you fed the poor
What are you gonna say
You gotta feed the poor
They're dying every day
When Jesus asks you why you didn't
Well what are you gonna say
There's a little boy
Lying on the ground
Sick to lift his head up
Too weak to make a sound
Ah you gotta feed the poor
You must obey
'Cause when Jesus asks you if you fed the poor
What are you gonna say
Alright, take a break [Spoken]
Wa-ow
Yeah feed the poor
They're dying every day
And when Jesus asks you if you fed the poor
Well what are you gonna say
You gotta feed the poor
You must obey
'Cause when Jesus asks you why you didn't
Well what are you gonna say
Two three
There's a little baby girl
With her eyes shut tight
Her body burns with fever
And there'll be no food tonight
You gotta feed the poor
You must obey
Jesus asks you if you fed the poor
Then what are you gonna say
Yeah
They're cutting down the rainforest so they can feed the cows
Fast food corporations, they got no time for ploughs
The wet lands and the swamp lands are being drained away
The animals and bird life, they have no place to stay
You gotta feed the poor [Coughs]
Gotta feed the poor [Coughs]
The insidious conglomerates deny that they're involved
Offshore phoney shell fronts, they make it hard to solve
A-with a thousand miles of paper trails went round, round and round
Or you can subpoena affidavits, another million trees come down
Feed the poor
Why don't you obey
'Cause when Jesus asks you why you didn't
Well what are you gonna say
You gotta feed the poor
They're dying every day, yeah
Well when Jesus asks you if you fed the poor
What are you gonna say
Yeah [x10]
When Jesus asks you why you didn't listen to him
What are you gonna say
You call yourselves a christian
Is that really what you are
Gotta feed the poor
You gotta feed the poor
[Coughs]
Alright happy birthday to me. And happy birthday to you eh, if it's your birthday, I hope you're having a nice sunny day. Course it may not be sunny where you are, in fact it may be really late at night over in Europe there. Em [Spoken]
Hey I, I lost my harmonica Albert
Okay, this is a song I'm just working on uh
I've just got Larry on the left channel
You got, in the left side? Go hold on a second. Twist to the right there. Can you, you can hear the guitar?
There we go
Okay [Clears throat]
Yeah, let's see what tape. Tape, tape the tapes this time. Okay [Spoken]
Okay
Okay, count it off Kenny Bam Boom
One two three four [Spoken]
You gotta feed the poor
You must obey
When Jesus asks you if you fed the poor
What are you gonna say
You gotta feed the poor
They're dying every day
When Jesus asks you why you didn't
Well what are you gonna say
There's a little boy
Lying on the ground
Sick to lift his head up
Too weak to make a sound
Ah you gotta feed the poor
You must obey
'Cause when Jesus asks you if you fed the poor
What are you gonna say
Alright, take a break [Spoken]
Wa-ow
Yeah feed the poor
They're dying every day
And when Jesus asks you if you fed the poor
Well what are you gonna say
You gotta feed the poor
You must obey
'Cause when Jesus asks you why you didn't
Well what are you gonna say
Two three
There's a little baby girl
With her eyes shut tight
Her body burns with fever
And there'll be no food tonight
You gotta feed the poor
You must obey
Jesus asks you if you fed the poor
Then what are you gonna say
Yeah
They're cutting down the rainforest so they can feed the cows
Fast food corporations, they got no time for ploughs
The wet lands and the swamp lands are being drained away
The animals and bird life, they have no place to stay
You gotta feed the poor [Coughs]
Gotta feed the poor [Coughs]
The insidious conglomerates deny that they're involved
Offshore phoney shell fronts, they make it hard to solve
A-with a thousand miles of paper trails went round, round and round
Or you can subpoena affidavits, another million trees come down
Feed the poor
Why don't you obey
'Cause when Jesus asks you why you didn't
Well what are you gonna say
You gotta feed the poor
They're dying every day, yeah
Well when Jesus asks you if you fed the poor
What are you gonna say
Yeah [x10]
When Jesus asks you why you didn't listen to him
What are you gonna say
You call yourselves a christian
Is that really what you are
Gotta feed the poor
You gotta feed the poor
[Coughs]
Alright happy birthday to me. And happy birthday to you eh, if it's your birthday, I hope you're having a nice sunny day. Course it may not be sunny where you are, in fact it may be really late at night over in Europe there. Em [Spoken]
rock the flock
[Go to Song Page]
Hey let's do this again, let's do this again. Em [Spoken by Larry]
Not this song [Spoken by Charles]
[Larry laughs]
Okay lets do this one
Ah ah ow ah ah ah ow ow ow [Mimicking guitar line]
Let's do that one, okay [Spoken by Larry]
Yeah
Oh I'm not plugged in [Spoken by others]
Who starts [Spoken by Charles]
You guys start it. Kenny, can you hear me? Kenny Bam Boom? Kenny Bam Boom? [Spoken by Larry]
??? Okay we're ready to start [Spoken by others]
Okay [Spoken by Larry]
??? if you hold it I'll play the bass [Spoken by others]
Is this the right chord? Okay. Can you nod ??? [Spoken by Larry]
One two three four [Spoken by other]
You gotta open your mouth
Don't play no game
Learn to walk proud
And don't live in shame
Love one another, beat the drum
You gotta rock the flock till kingdom come
All you mothers and fathers
Living in this world
Treat your children better
So all the boys and girls
Can grow up stronger and not feel numb
You gotta rock the flock till kingdom come
Oh yeah
You gotta speak the truth
Scream and yell
Crank it up so they can hear you near the gates of hell
Don't cloud your eyes
Don't hide your light
Shake off the fear and jump into the fight
Alright
You gotta hit the streets
Spread the word around
Tell the people you meet
To lay their burdens down
Let everybody know where you're coming from
You gotta rock the flock till kingdom come
Wo-oh yeah yeah yeah
Rock the flock
Kingdom come
Tell your brother
Where you're coming from
Reach right out
Lift him up
Share your bread
And fill his cup
Yeah
Okay thanks. We're gonna go back to the IRC now and eh, you can use the CUCMe or eh [Spoken by Larry]
See you, see me, la la la la la la la [Sung]
God bless you. Mo' guitar [Spoken by Larry]
Can we turn it off? Okay [Spoken by other]
Hey let's do this again, let's do this again. Em [Spoken by Larry]
Not this song [Spoken by Charles]
[Larry laughs]
Okay lets do this one
Ah ah ow ah ah ah ow ow ow [Mimicking guitar line]
Let's do that one, okay [Spoken by Larry]
Yeah
Oh I'm not plugged in [Spoken by others]
Who starts [Spoken by Charles]
You guys start it. Kenny, can you hear me? Kenny Bam Boom? Kenny Bam Boom? [Spoken by Larry]
??? Okay we're ready to start [Spoken by others]
Okay [Spoken by Larry]
??? if you hold it I'll play the bass [Spoken by others]
Is this the right chord? Okay. Can you nod ??? [Spoken by Larry]
One two three four [Spoken by other]
You gotta open your mouth
Don't play no game
Learn to walk proud
And don't live in shame
Love one another, beat the drum
You gotta rock the flock till kingdom come
All you mothers and fathers
Living in this world
Treat your children better
So all the boys and girls
Can grow up stronger and not feel numb
You gotta rock the flock till kingdom come
Oh yeah
You gotta speak the truth
Scream and yell
Crank it up so they can hear you near the gates of hell
Don't cloud your eyes
Don't hide your light
Shake off the fear and jump into the fight
Alright
You gotta hit the streets
Spread the word around
Tell the people you meet
To lay their burdens down
Let everybody know where you're coming from
You gotta rock the flock till kingdom come
Wo-oh yeah yeah yeah
Rock the flock
Kingdom come
Tell your brother
Where you're coming from
Reach right out
Lift him up
Share your bread
And fill his cup
Yeah
Okay thanks. We're gonna go back to the IRC now and eh, you can use the CUCMe or eh [Spoken by Larry]
See you, see me, la la la la la la la [Sung]
God bless you. Mo' guitar [Spoken by Larry]
Can we turn it off? Okay [Spoken by other]
Jesus freak
[Go to Song Page]
Separated, I cut myself clean
From a past that comes back in my darkest of dreams
Been apprehended by a spiritual force
And a grace that replaced all the me I've divorced
I saw a man with a tat on his big fat belly
It wriggled around like marmalade jelly
It took me a while to catch what it said
'Cause I had to match the rhythm
Of his belly with my head
Jesus saves is what it raved in a typical tattoo green
He stood on a box in the middle of the city
And claimed he'd had a dream
What will people think
When they hear that I'm a Jesus freak
What will people do when they find that it's true
I don't really care if they label me a Jesus freak
There ain't no disguising the truth
There ain't no disguising the truth (There ain't no disguising the truth)
No I ain't into hiding the truth (No I ain't into hiding the truth)
Kamikaze, my death is gain
I've been marked by my maker
A peculiar display
The high and lofty, they see me as weak
'Cause I won't live and die to the power they seek
There was a man from the desert with naps in his head
The sand that he walked was also his bed
The words that he spoke made the people assume
There wasn't too much left in the upper room
With skins on his back and hair on his face
They thought he was strange by the locusts he ate
You see the Pharisees tripped when they heard him speak
And the king took the head of this Jesus freak
What will people think
When they hear that I'm a Jesus freak
What will people do when they find that it's true
I don't really care if they label me a Jesus freak
There ain't no disguising the truth [x2]
No I ain't into (No I ain't into) hiding (hiding) the truth (the truth)
People say I'm strange, does that make me a stranger
That my best friend was born in the manger
People say I'm strange, does that make me a stranger
My best friend was born in the manger
What will people think
When they hear that I'm a Jesus freak
What will people do when they find that it's true
I don't really care if they label me a Jesus freak
There ain't no disguising the truth
What will people think
When they hear that I'm a Jesus freak
There ain't no disguising the truth
Separated, I cut myself clean
From a past that comes back in my darkest of dreams
Been apprehended by a spiritual force
And a grace that replaced all the me I've divorced
I saw a man with a tat on his big fat belly
It wriggled around like marmalade jelly
It took me a while to catch what it said
'Cause I had to match the rhythm
Of his belly with my head
Jesus saves is what it raved in a typical tattoo green
He stood on a box in the middle of the city
And claimed he'd had a dream
What will people think
When they hear that I'm a Jesus freak
What will people do when they find that it's true
I don't really care if they label me a Jesus freak
There ain't no disguising the truth
There ain't no disguising the truth (There ain't no disguising the truth)
No I ain't into hiding the truth (No I ain't into hiding the truth)
Kamikaze, my death is gain
I've been marked by my maker
A peculiar display
The high and lofty, they see me as weak
'Cause I won't live and die to the power they seek
There was a man from the desert with naps in his head
The sand that he walked was also his bed
The words that he spoke made the people assume
There wasn't too much left in the upper room
With skins on his back and hair on his face
They thought he was strange by the locusts he ate
You see the Pharisees tripped when they heard him speak
And the king took the head of this Jesus freak
What will people think
When they hear that I'm a Jesus freak
What will people do when they find that it's true
I don't really care if they label me a Jesus freak
There ain't no disguising the truth [x2]
No I ain't into (No I ain't into) hiding (hiding) the truth (the truth)
People say I'm strange, does that make me a stranger
That my best friend was born in the manger
People say I'm strange, does that make me a stranger
My best friend was born in the manger
What will people think
When they hear that I'm a Jesus freak
What will people do when they find that it's true
I don't really care if they label me a Jesus freak
There ain't no disguising the truth
What will people think
When they hear that I'm a Jesus freak
There ain't no disguising the truth
friendship's end
[Go to Song Page]
There once was a time
When I could call you a friend of mine
A place to hide, where can I find
I wanna leave my, my past behind
Though things are different now
Why can’t we make amends
(Why can’t we make amends)
Though things are different now
Why can’t we still be friends
(Why can’t we still be friends)
Once there was a closeness shared
Each others burdens, together we beared
Your stubborn self will gets in the way
Oh oh, you never listen to anything I say
Though things are different now
Why can’t we make amends
(Why can’t we make amends)
Though things are different now
Why can’t we still be friends
(Why can’t we still be friends)
Now I’ve found someone, someone new
Ah ha
To replace my thoughts of you
Yeah yeah
And now I've found someone else
To replace my thoughts of you
Uh, uh-uh, ah ah yeah
There once was a time
When I could call you a friend of mine
A place to hide, where can I find
I wanna leave my, my past behind
Though things are different now
Why can’t we make amends
(Why can’t we make amends)
Though things are different now
Why can’t we still be friends
(Why can’t we still be friends)
Once there was a closeness shared
Each others burdens, together we beared
Your stubborn self will gets in the way
Oh oh, you never listen to anything I say
Though things are different now
Why can’t we make amends
(Why can’t we make amends)
Though things are different now
Why can’t we still be friends
(Why can’t we still be friends)
Now I’ve found someone, someone new
Ah ha
To replace my thoughts of you
Yeah yeah
And now I've found someone else
To replace my thoughts of you
Uh, uh-uh, ah ah yeah
when all my dreams are ending
[Go to Song Page]
When all my dreams are ending
I find myself pretending
That my hopes are far from dying
And my tears are not from crying
I just throw back my head
Smiling instead and laugh, laugh
Laugh at all the things that I have lost
On those nights when I get lonely
I tell myself it's only
Evening imitating sorrow
And that I'll feel fine tomorrow
And I never confess
That I've cried over us, gone, gone
Gone are all the things we used to share
And care for
When the nights get cold
I sit by a lonely fire
Remembering the love we shared
With laughter and desire
Ah da la la la ETC
When all my dreams are ending
And I never confess
That I've cried over love, gone, gone
Gone are all the things we used to share
And care for
When all my dreams are ending
I find myself pretending
That my hopes are far from dying
And my tears are not from crying
I just throw back my head
Smiling instead and laugh, laugh
Laugh at all the things that I have lost
On those nights when I get lonely
I tell myself it's only
Evening imitating sorrow
And that I'll feel fine tomorrow
And I never confess
That I've cried over us, gone, gone
Gone are all the things we used to share
And care for
When the nights get cold
I sit by a lonely fire
Remembering the love we shared
With laughter and desire
Ah da la la la ETC
When all my dreams are ending
And I never confess
That I've cried over love, gone, gone
Gone are all the things we used to share
And care for
near
[Go to Song Page]
When you are lost
When you are sad
You must remember all the love we had
Try not to hurt
Try not to cry
Keep your head up and look into the sky
Call, don't wonder why I am near
Please say a prayer
When you think of me
For now he's there even if you can't see
I love your heart
With all of mine
Yours is the love that I could never find
Because I was so blind, but I am near
Do not be sad
And don't despair
God knows your every thought and he is there
He is your house
He is your place
I feel his love when I recall your face
For I look into space, I am near
I feel so far from where I know that I should be
Oh will I ever find my way
I’ve climbed the mountain and as far as I can see
This is the way that things will stay
Please say a prayer
When you think of me
And I'll be there even if you can't see
I love your heart
With all of mine
Yours is the love that I could never find
Because I was so blind, but I am near
I am near
I am near
When you are lost
When you are sad
You must remember all the love we had
Try not to hurt
Try not to cry
Keep your head up and look into the sky
Call, don't wonder why I am near
Please say a prayer
When you think of me
For now he's there even if you can't see
I love your heart
With all of mine
Yours is the love that I could never find
Because I was so blind, but I am near
Do not be sad
And don't despair
God knows your every thought and he is there
He is your house
He is your place
I feel his love when I recall your face
For I look into space, I am near
I feel so far from where I know that I should be
Oh will I ever find my way
I’ve climbed the mountain and as far as I can see
This is the way that things will stay
Please say a prayer
When you think of me
And I'll be there even if you can't see
I love your heart
With all of mine
Yours is the love that I could never find
Because I was so blind, but I am near
I am near
I am near
Ironman takes the "A" train
deja vu
the future is here
breathe in
[Go to Song Page]
[This is recorded with a guide vocal fading in and out. Some parts, marked [xxx] appear to be sung with meaningless syllables]
[xxx]
Stood in the mud among the bodies and the blood
And could not remember what for
That’s when Jesus knew I’d love you too
And made sure that you’d be standing there
That’s when Jesus knew I’d love you
That’s when Jesus knew I’d care
[???]
While others might pass him by
[xxx]
Blood in his hands
Stood in the mud among the bodies and the blood
Could not remember what for
While others might pass him by
[xxx]
Stood in the mud among the bodies and the blood
And could not remember what for
That’s when Jesus knew I’d love you
That’s when Jesus knew I’d care
That’s when Jesus knew I’d love you too
Sure that you’d be standing there
That’s when Jesus knew that he'd suffer
That’s when Jesus knew he’d die
That’s when Jesus knew ???
And others might pass him by
That's when Jesus knew me
[This is recorded with a guide vocal fading in and out. Some parts, marked [xxx] appear to be sung with meaningless syllables]
[xxx]
Stood in the mud among the bodies and the blood
And could not remember what for
That’s when Jesus knew I’d love you too
And made sure that you’d be standing there
That’s when Jesus knew I’d love you
That’s when Jesus knew I’d care
[???]
While others might pass him by
[xxx]
Blood in his hands
Stood in the mud among the bodies and the blood
Could not remember what for
While others might pass him by
[xxx]
Stood in the mud among the bodies and the blood
And could not remember what for
That’s when Jesus knew I’d love you
That’s when Jesus knew I’d care
That’s when Jesus knew I’d love you too
Sure that you’d be standing there
That’s when Jesus knew that he'd suffer
That’s when Jesus knew he’d die
That’s when Jesus knew ???
And others might pass him by
That's when Jesus knew me
are you breathing
veja Du
you'll never guess
Disc 2
godspell interview
You spoke about seeing Godspell in London. What was your impression of the musical?
I saw, hmm, I first saw Godspell in London with David Essex in the lead role, and I liked it a lot. And perhaps I had a little bit different perspective on Godspell. I had immersed myself in theatre, eh, eh, during those years. I had written Alison and a second musical which Paul Aaron had directed. Eh later he directed Salvation on Broadway. Teddy Neeley was my co-star in both musicals and he went on to portray Jesus in the Norman Jewison film, eh, of Jesus Christ Superstar. An', and I had seen Superstar on stage in New York and also in London and I didn't like it. So when Godspell came along so, eh, yeah when Gods, when Godspell came along I had a lot of concern about how the image of Christ might be presented. In Superstar Jesus is portrayed as being confused and misdirected and the script centralised Judas Iscariot as the hero. A kind of a victim of God's will, and forced to betray Christ to fulfil some vague destiny. And, and there was no resurrection, there was only, there was only failure. But in Godspell, eh, there was joy and there was an implied resurrection because, eh of the celebration when the clown who represents the Christ figure dies but then comes back and sings the finale with eh, all of his followers. And also there was so much scripture in Godspell that it really had the power which comes through those words which Jesus had spoken and I felt that Godspell might bless the people who came to watch it. They weren’t going to see Jesus as a forlorn character who was confused about his identity and his purpose and they, they would hear bible scripture, perhaps for the first time, and there was so much love in Godspell. I thought that this was very important, not Christ as a sombre icon with his arms stretching out, but Jesus the man, the saviour who loves people.
What do you remember about Godspell’s music?
Well, um, in Superstar a lot of the music was almost like a dirge, it was kind of aleatory with the melodies stabbing aimlessly within the chords. But eh Godspell in contrast had joyful melodies and very uplifting lyrics. Day By Day was great, you know, Bless The Lord, All Good Gifts. These were a lot better than most Broadway songs. If you’re familiar with the quality of musical scores in the sixties and seventies Godspell was a lot more memorable. Eh, two, two, I remember eh two important songs, Learn Your Lessons Well and We Beseech Thee were in the original stage production but were both cut out of David Green’s film version, and I think that was because of the conviction these songs evoked. Th’ these songs call people to accountability and eh introspection looking at personal sin. Eh, and the other songs like Prepare Ye The Way Of The Lord, eh, a lot of these songs are almost like early praise and worship music.
Well me about how the music changed from the late sixties to early seventies.
There was a real despair in cinema in the sixties, which was al', also reflected in the music. A lot of bands sang about what they thought was wrong with the world but, ah, no answers. Em, love songs were more about the anguish that comes with betrayal. And at that time a lot of music was about alienation, distrust but, but then James Taylor and Carole King and Jimmy Webb started writing about small moments in life, subtle aspects of personal relationships and Godspell it also had this very eh, it was very much a feel good experience for theatre goers who had eh just sat through Line and Rosencrantz and Guildenstern, very depressing productions. Em, and I had been singing christian rock songs for a long time with a lot of resistance from people, but with productions like Salvation and particularly Godspell, the shock of hearing Jesus’ name in a modern context began to change the way people reacted. You know, if the church wasn’t gonna take Jesus into the streets and the theatre then the rocks would cry out and others would present the gospel around the world.
Hmm. Well please recount some of the positive and negative things that were happening in the world during the seventies. You told me that you spent much of your time overseas. What were some of the things that you were doing during that time?
I think there was a lot of distortion in peoples thinking at the end of the sixties. Some people were living in communes to try to find peace, em, get in touch with the earth. Eh, eh other people were trying to evolve from their radical stance and somehow effect change through eh, political channels. A', a', and I was not in America a lot during those years, I was touring through Europe, trying to write songs for, really for non christians. Eh and I, I tried to do this, em in a very artful way, you know, after the Beatles broke up George Martin had built Air Studios in London, started producing other artists and he helped me put together a band so that I could record Only Visiting This Planet. I performed at Royal Albert Hall five, six times then appeared on BBC television, was in two film documentaries. Started my own record label, started producing albums for the artists. I was just very busy. That’s all I can think of.
Okay Larry, thanks for answering the questions, and eh, guess that’s about it.
I saw, hmm, I first saw Godspell in London with David Essex in the lead role, and I liked it a lot. And perhaps I had a little bit different perspective on Godspell. I had immersed myself in theatre, eh, eh, during those years. I had written Alison and a second musical which Paul Aaron had directed. Eh later he directed Salvation on Broadway. Teddy Neeley was my co-star in both musicals and he went on to portray Jesus in the Norman Jewison film, eh, of Jesus Christ Superstar. An', and I had seen Superstar on stage in New York and also in London and I didn't like it. So when Godspell came along so, eh, yeah when Gods, when Godspell came along I had a lot of concern about how the image of Christ might be presented. In Superstar Jesus is portrayed as being confused and misdirected and the script centralised Judas Iscariot as the hero. A kind of a victim of God's will, and forced to betray Christ to fulfil some vague destiny. And, and there was no resurrection, there was only, there was only failure. But in Godspell, eh, there was joy and there was an implied resurrection because, eh of the celebration when the clown who represents the Christ figure dies but then comes back and sings the finale with eh, all of his followers. And also there was so much scripture in Godspell that it really had the power which comes through those words which Jesus had spoken and I felt that Godspell might bless the people who came to watch it. They weren’t going to see Jesus as a forlorn character who was confused about his identity and his purpose and they, they would hear bible scripture, perhaps for the first time, and there was so much love in Godspell. I thought that this was very important, not Christ as a sombre icon with his arms stretching out, but Jesus the man, the saviour who loves people.
What do you remember about Godspell’s music?
Well, um, in Superstar a lot of the music was almost like a dirge, it was kind of aleatory with the melodies stabbing aimlessly within the chords. But eh Godspell in contrast had joyful melodies and very uplifting lyrics. Day By Day was great, you know, Bless The Lord, All Good Gifts. These were a lot better than most Broadway songs. If you’re familiar with the quality of musical scores in the sixties and seventies Godspell was a lot more memorable. Eh, two, two, I remember eh two important songs, Learn Your Lessons Well and We Beseech Thee were in the original stage production but were both cut out of David Green’s film version, and I think that was because of the conviction these songs evoked. Th’ these songs call people to accountability and eh introspection looking at personal sin. Eh, and the other songs like Prepare Ye The Way Of The Lord, eh, a lot of these songs are almost like early praise and worship music.
Well me about how the music changed from the late sixties to early seventies.
There was a real despair in cinema in the sixties, which was al', also reflected in the music. A lot of bands sang about what they thought was wrong with the world but, ah, no answers. Em, love songs were more about the anguish that comes with betrayal. And at that time a lot of music was about alienation, distrust but, but then James Taylor and Carole King and Jimmy Webb started writing about small moments in life, subtle aspects of personal relationships and Godspell it also had this very eh, it was very much a feel good experience for theatre goers who had eh just sat through Line and Rosencrantz and Guildenstern, very depressing productions. Em, and I had been singing christian rock songs for a long time with a lot of resistance from people, but with productions like Salvation and particularly Godspell, the shock of hearing Jesus’ name in a modern context began to change the way people reacted. You know, if the church wasn’t gonna take Jesus into the streets and the theatre then the rocks would cry out and others would present the gospel around the world.
Hmm. Well please recount some of the positive and negative things that were happening in the world during the seventies. You told me that you spent much of your time overseas. What were some of the things that you were doing during that time?
I think there was a lot of distortion in peoples thinking at the end of the sixties. Some people were living in communes to try to find peace, em, get in touch with the earth. Eh, eh other people were trying to evolve from their radical stance and somehow effect change through eh, political channels. A', a', and I was not in America a lot during those years, I was touring through Europe, trying to write songs for, really for non christians. Eh and I, I tried to do this, em in a very artful way, you know, after the Beatles broke up George Martin had built Air Studios in London, started producing other artists and he helped me put together a band so that I could record Only Visiting This Planet. I performed at Royal Albert Hall five, six times then appeared on BBC television, was in two film documentaries. Started my own record label, started producing albums for the artists. I was just very busy. That’s all I can think of.
Okay Larry, thanks for answering the questions, and eh, guess that’s about it.
wzzd interview
Note: This is not a fully accurate transcription. Incidentals such as 'um' and 'er' and stuttered starts to words have for the most part been omitted.
Note: The text is created by a voice to text app, so not at all accurate until I work my way through it all.
[Starts over the ending to Why Don't You Look Into Jesus]
Six-o-four on the morning show, Jimmy Dee and Why Don't You Look Into Jesus. Morning everybody, we're eh pleased, happy, thankful that Larry Norman is with us in the studio. Morning Larry
Hi
Thanks for coming in
Yeah
You're even awake almost
Yeah
Larry has been aptly titled the founding father of christian music and eh, that was one of the songs a lotta folks grew up on, including myself. Larry eh, got in last night and eh, and normally I guess you're getting, you're more of a night owl so
Yeah this is not bad huh, yeah
It's not too bad though for ya
No sometimes I'm up this late just writing songs. I like, I like being up at night when everybody else is asleep, it's so peaceful
You have a good flight?
Hm-Hmm
Any problems?
No, no [Hesistantly]
Okay
We landed
That's always a positive. I dunno, maybe a good way to start would be, in a way from the beginning just to give folks a context of where you're, where you're coming from, em, people would probably recognise, eh, your first group.
Is this like a talk show, this is a three hour talk show or?
We're gonna mix in some songs as we go and
Why don't you play another song
You want me to do that
Yeah
Alright, let's do that. I have eh
It get's boring when people just talk and talk so I, I don't wanna start off their drive to work by doing this to them
Okay, alright, well we'll do that then. One of our favourites is eh Reader's Digest
Okay
Would that be cool with you?
Hm-hmm
Okay
[Reader's Digest]
Today's christian music nine ninety WZZD, Reader's Digest. Larry Norman, six thirteen on the morning show. 800-990-9673 is our number if you would like to get involved in the conversation. Eh, it's been a long eh, it's been a long week just getting ready so please bear with me personally in the first few moments just getting ourselves together. We have to actually do a little bit of a special set up for this to all happen this morning so I'm just actually testing out a couple of the buttons and stuff like that to make sure we have access to all the stuff that we need.
Larry, that's a really cool song and that's one of the ones I love to play in the morning just for the energy sake, the quick wit that comes through in your lyrics and stuff. Eh, I don't know if you remember what led you to write that song or how you got the thing together, very timely, captured the time very well, what was going on that time.
Yeah well I, I thought about a lot of things all the time but usually a song develops only one idea for the whole song. So I wanted to eh talk about a lot of different things so I decided to write a song that I could talk about a bunch of things, not just one thing but a lot of things. So I, I wrote that song, and eh, I remember reading Reader's Digest when I was in school and I thought there's just so many articles in this magazine, so that's why I called the song Reader's Digest, because there's so many ideas in the song.
Did it take you a long time to craft the song like that, 'cause I think the lyrics are very clever?
Nah, it doesn't take any time at all. I don't know why but it's just easy to write a song. If you said go in the other room and write a song I'd just go and think oh I got an idea for a song and I just, it just comes right out.
Okay. It's interesting because you capture a lot of things in that, in that that would, you know, it seems like it would take a while to maybe come up with. You were with the group People?
Hm-hmm, yeah
Some folks will obviously know about and then eh, how long were you with the band there and...
Two years
Okay
Yeah
And then...
Yeah I couldn't find any, any eh christians who could play instruments. In fact most christians thought that rock and roll was of the devil, so really I had no way of getting a band together and then I, and then I met a couple of Jewish boys and eh one Catholic and eh, a guy who had been raised Mormon but he never had really gone to church but a few times, so but so he said he was a Mormon but he wasn't you know. So it was kind of hard being in a group with people that didn't understand what I wanted to do but they would, they were happy to, to do whatever. I mean I was the person that wrote most of the songs and Capitol, actually it's a good thing they started writing songs because Capitol didn't really want to release all my songs.
Hmmm
Em, so we ended up doing a lot of material that the rest of the guys had written and, but that was ironic too because a couple of years later Capitol offered me a solo contract doing nothing but christian songs. So I did Upon This Rock, did I Wish We'd All Been Ready and, and eh Sweet Song Of Salvation and a bunch of songs like that. So even though Capitol didn't like it at first they were actually the first label to ever release any christian rock music. And I'd been writing it since I was young so I felt really eh, glad that I could be on Capitol Records all those years.
So you were a christian when you were in People?
Yeah well I was five I became a christian and, and eh when I was nine I began singing at school and, and eh, and so I started talking to kids at school and getting, trying to get them to come. Actually that's why I started writing these songs, was because I couldn't get kids to come to church with me. Probably, I didn't think of it at the time was they're kids, they have to get their parents to give them permission or they'd have to get their parents to come to church you know. Ah, most nine year old kids are not gonna tell their parents I'm going to church whether you like it or not, right? So anyway, nobody would go to church with me. When I was in the fourth grade I decided I'm gonna bring church to the, to the kids, I'm gonna start singing at lunch hour. So I was very, I wouldn't say I was ambitious, it really had nothing to do with music for years. It was all about Jesus, it was about being a missionary and that's what I wanted to be, but I just started doing it at school in my own country, you know instead of going to Africa which is where I kind of thought all the missionaries used to go. 'Cause I thought well that's where the people don't wear any clothes and I think the missionaries feel that it's their job to go make 'em wear clothes and tell them about God. But I didn't see why they had to wear clothes, couldn't believe even if you had a loin cloth on? Why do you have to wear, you know.
Alright
American clothes
The innocent thoughts of a nine year old coming through. It's six nineteen on the morning show, eh Timmy Dee with Larry Norman in the studio, we're very glad he's here with us, the guy that got the whole ball of wax rolling so to speak in contemporary christian music. We're gonna throw on a couple more songs and in the near future here I'll take some calls, 800-990 Word. Em, my laptop is in another room and my laptop has all of your CDs except Only Visiting This Planet, which we just played a song from.
Ah ha
Now we could burn through all the great ones on this one and then go get my laptop. But what I think I'll do is I'll put one on here, I'll go get my laptop, we'll come back and
[Why Should The Devil have All The Good Music]
What is your, maybe this is a tough question. Is there a favourite song you have Larry or favourite group of songs that you enjoy doing or you get the most response out of or, there's so many to pick from obviously?
It just depends what I'm trying to em do at the time. You mean when I'm singing in concert?
Ah yeah maybe I'm, maybe I should ask two separate questions. Do you personally, do you have a song that you eh, you still enjoy turning the stereo on and enjoying listening to it?
I'm not usually listening to my music.
Okay
But eh, if I was gonna put on something from eh, this period you're talk, playing right now which is the sixties, from that album I would play I Wish We'd All Been Ready.
Okay, which DC Talk have covered and folks are familiar with that.
Yeah, hm-hmm.
Any particular reason behind that song for you that's?
Yeah I read in the bible that Jesus was coming back to earth but at the time I had never really heard a sermon preached about it for all those years that I had gone to church so I decided well nobody's talking about this but it's in the bible so I'm going to write a song about it and then a couple years later it seemed like everybody was talking about the return of Christ, and I thought oh that's good, people are thinking about that now instead of imagining that christianity is just a way of life that goes on and on and that's just what you do for the rest of eternity, that people need to remember that there's not only eternity that exists beyond this, this level that we're living on now but also Jesus is also coming back some day to stop the end of recorded history and to rewrite it with a new beginning. So that's what the song was about and em most people thought this was about world war three when I wrote it, they didn't really know what, that it was about Jesus coming back, they just thought it was about the end of the world, world war three.
Okay, yeah.
That's what people used to think about in those days. From the fifties on, you know people had, had covered over their swimming pools and made bomb shelters out of them during the fifties, 'cause they were afraid the Russians were going to attack any moment, world war three was gonna destroy the earth.
Ha you, you've probably seen it all. I dunno if Johnny Dee is with us yet, hey there John, morning..
Morning
Eh who was it, John's our traffic weanie we call him. What was, what was the phrase we said yesterday John at the end of the program when I was mentioning Larry would be with us this morning, the eh three people, the, we rattled them off earlier, the guy did the radio?
Oh the three most important people in broadcasting?
Yeah.
Ah, God number one.
Right.
Number two Marconi and, and number three you're pal 'cause he invented, you know contemporary christian music.
Hahaha Marconi.
What was that?
Yesterday when I was mentioning you'd be here this morning
Oh
He eh, he said the three most important people, obviously the Lord at the top of the heap and then eh Marconi was the guy who invented radio?
That's correct.
Okay.
And then you because you invented contemporary christian music and the, and the genre.
Hahahaha.
So eh, you're in good company.
Haha well eh, that's nice.
Where is this guy going with what? You'll get into the groove later. I'm completely whacked.
Oh
That's all you need to know.
Okay.
That's right, John is whack.
I am from deep left centre field
Hahahaha
Usually outta the park.
How are things going my man?
It's good going west ?? ninety five south, a little slow as you're moving through Gerrard into Jersey. Forty two, a little slow at free flow on the way.......
It is six twenty nine on the morning show with Jimmy Dee and Larry Norman in the studio where we now go to Bruce on eh, caller number eight.
Yeah.
Hey Bruce.
How you doing?
Very good.
Well Larry I just wanted to let you know I thank God for your courage to take the stand that you did, when you did. I became a christian in 1979, grew up listening to all the 1970s rock bands. And so when I became a christian I kind of went away from that and someone said hey, I have someone I want you to listen to, and they gave me a Larry Norman tape. And eh, I thought well, I'm home now. So, thank you very much for your music sir.
Yeah, you're welcome, yeah.
Also if you're just joining us now and you don't know who Larry is, maybe you're newer to christian music, Larry is the, the you know, kind of trunk of the tree as far as contemporary christian music goes and in a very real sense where there is even a WZZD to wake up to in the morning. He's gonna be doing a concert tomorrow night at the Christian Cinema in Ambler, and eh, we're just very pleased to be able to have him here this morning. If nothing else you can get a real history lesson as to what contemporary christian music is all about. We can chat with Larry some more this morning about that but we want to make sure we work in some songs. We were talking about Why Don't You Look Into Jesus, no, I Wish We'd All Been Ready was the one that you had mentioned before the break there so I'm gonna put that on and then we'll take some calls too, 800-991, very good.
Alright.
Alright, Larry Norman on the morning show, I Wish We'd All Been Ready. Some folks may be familiar with this one too as far as DC Talk has covered this and there's some other songs that folks have covered on a tribute album to Larry that was out a few years ago, you'll recognise some of these songs as we go along. Jimmy Dee, six thirty one.
[I Wish We'd All Been Ready]
This is christian music 990-WZZD. I Wish We'd All Been Ready, that's Larry Norman. We've played several songs this morning from Only Visiting This Planet, including Reader's Digest and Why Should The Devil Have All The Good Music. Eh, Why Should The Devil Have All The Good Music was covered by Geoff Moore. He's been doing that one for a long time actually.
Yeah ten years, gosh
Have you had a chance to talk with the folks who've covered your songs?
Well I've had over 300 cover songs so I didn't get to talk to everybody.
How do people go about doing that as far as royalties go and having to contact you first?
No they don't contact me, they contact Capitol Records. Capitol Records helped me by doing publishing for most of the years. So Sammy Davis Junior even sang a song, Petula Clark, some of the old people you know. Jack Jones was like Frank Sinatra type singer. Jack Jones did I Wish We'd All Been Ready as a matter of fact, which I couldn't imagine. At the time my stuff came out I couldn't, no christian label would have anything to do with me, I had to be on, I had to be on Capitol Records and MGM Records for about ah eight years, nine years because no christian company did anything like this kind of music and they didn't even believe it was christian for many years. So when Jack Jones did I Wish We'd All Been Ready it blew my mind. Because he was a cabaret singer. But at the end of the song he said instead of there's no time to change your mind, the son has come and you've been left behind.
Right.
He said there's no time to change your mind the son has come and we've been left behind, we've been left behind. So he actually thought the song was about Christ coming the first time and that we just didn't listen to him and now we've all been left behind in this world that we've created full of you know potential destruction and so. And then he had a theremin on the end going woo-oo-oo woo-oo. So it was like an outer space song and Jesus came and now he's gone because we killed him and, you know that wasn't exactly the meaning of the song.
No I guess that's the risk you run, the creative liberty some people may take. Eh 800-990-9673 if you would like to [Fades out]
Call 1-800-62864-74 to place your ad in the Shepherd's Guide. That's 1-800-62864-74. [Jingle]: Let your brothers and sisters know what you do and how to find you, just advertise in the shepherd's guide, and let the shepherd guide you.
It is 6:41 on the morning show with Timmy Dee and Larry Norman in the studio with us enjoying some time together today. We're going to throw on some songs here in a couple of seconds but first we have a couple calls Larry, eh let's see, Paul on the cell phone, morning Paul.
Good morning Timmy Dee, how you doing?
Very good.
Alright. Larry Norman, nice to hear from you.
Yeah thank you.
Nice, nice to have you in the studio. My question basically is since you've been in Europe, do you find that the people there are more dependant to look for God or more dependant to find somebody to help them, whereas here in America because our government helps us so much and we have so much here in America we're a little bit slow for instance and we don't eh look for someone like God to help us as everyday daily living?
Yeah interesting question, and the answer would be yes and no. The people in other countries are actually helped more by their government than we are. They have a lot of social, socialised medicine, unemployment is socialised. But, even though they are reliant upon their government more than we permitted to be, they reach out for God in a different way than we do because they don't live in a culture that's eh religious culture. For someone in Holland to become a christian is more frowned upon by society than it is in our country. If you're a christian over here you get to know a lot more people but in places like Holland and England the percentage of people who go to church is like 2%. And out of that the percentage of people are true christians would be even less than 2%. So it's much harder and more deliberate a choice to make to become a christian in European countries than it is in America.
Alright Paul, thanks for calling in.
And thank you. I'd just like to say I like to listen to his music 'cause it's clear and it brings your thought messages out.
Oh thanks you, thanks.
Thank you.
Thanks Paul. Moving along also now to John in Hapbro there, are you there John?
Ah yeah it's me.
Welcome aboard.
Hey Larry, just wanna say eh, the one song you wrote And We Sing The Tune, I had that sung at my wedding and it really meant a lot to me and my wife and you've meant a lot to me over the years and I just wondered if there's any story behind that song.
Eh it's, it's exactly what a lot of us feel about falling in love with somebody who we can be with forever. It is eh, we feel in a way undeserving of real love and surprised by it and we find that we're singing a similar tune to this person that we've met, that we've never heard anybody else sing except ourselves and so we're both singing the same tune and she seems to know the harmon y and and the words and everything just seems to, to fit. And this is what God wants is for us to find a partner who we can share our life with. It doesn't happen to all of us unfortunately, it's, it's really a longing in our hearts that isn't always satisfied but we always have Jesus even if we don't find a partner for our whole life. But that's what song's about and I'm glad you played it at your wedding, that's nice. It's kind of a testimonial to other people too.
Thanks for calling in John.
Okay thanks.
Appreciate it.
Bye Larry.
Bye bye.
Well eh, what song, I'm sorry I was busy getting a couple things.
Eh it's a song that it's really not been on a record yet but.
Oh really.
I think it was on, I don't know, I can't remember. You know I've had, I've done like 42 or 43 albums, not counting what I just did this last couple of years and eh. And then there's other bootlegs and all kinds of stuff that are out so.
Yeah.
Sometimes I don't know where people, I know I recorded this song, oh I did this song once on a live album.
Okay.
So that's probably where he heard it.
But the titles, do you remember the title, I didn't catch the title?
And We Sing The Tune. There's a song called The Tune which is a long parable, a long story but then there's a song which goes into it, And We Sing The Tune and then I go into The Tune later and I.
Okay.
I don't always sing 'em both together at the same time but this is kind of a love song he's talking about.
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Larry Norman's on the Morning Show at 646. Let's put on a tune right now. One of the songs that I know a lot of folks grew up on and enjoy is The Rock That Doesn't Roll. We'll slip that on here. If you'd like to join our conversation, feel free. 800 990 9673. 990 9673 for ZZD and, uh, uh, also, we'll be giving away some tickets, so keep that number close by.
Uh, a little later on in the program, we'll have tickets to give away for the show tomorrow night, The Christian Sentiment in Ambler. Today's Christian Music, 990 W ZZD, Larry Norman, The Rock That Doesn't Roll, at 6. 50 on the morning show at Timmy D and, uh, Larry in the studio with us. Again, if you'd like to...
Uh, call in 800 990 WORDS, our number. You can also, uh, give 215 628 4634 a call. That's the number for the Christian Cinema in Ambler. Larry will be there tomorrow night, beginning at 7 o'clock. It's right off exit 26, Fort Washington exit of the Pennsylvania Turnpike. Very easy to get to. And, uh, you know, they can give you directions if you need to, if you haven't been there before.
215 628 4634, I'll be there too, and hopefully we'll get to meet some of the folks in the listening audience. Uh, Larry's taking some calls today, and playing some music, and, um, you have some new music coming out too, Larry. Uh, new CDs that are, uh, coming out in a matter of weeks, or what's happening? Yeah, by three weeks from now, people will have them, the people that have written to the company to get them.
Yeah, there'll be a... Available next week and it'll take a couple weeks for them to get him excellent. Yeah, I heard that So there's a couple it's a double album called breathe in breathe out. Okay, there's a studio. Yeah studio There's another studio album called copper wires and there's a another album called shouting in the storm, which is actually a live Concert I just did over in Europe with a band and that's Already out in Europe.
Okay. Very good. Uh, we have, let's see, Carol from Oakland on the phone. Morning, Carol. How are ya? Good morning. Uh, fire away. Well, uh, first of all, I just wanted to thank Lowry for, uh, making such an impression on my life when I was a teenager in the 70s. My cousin and I, when we found your records, we couldn't believe it because all we went to was Christian Quartet stuff, you know?
We grew up with that with our uncle, and he used to take us to these concerts. But when we found Lowry's music, you know, we were thrilled. Um, my uncle wasn't too thrilled at the time, because he didn't believe it was Christian music either, but he did let us listen to it, and eventually he came around. Um, but, uh, second of all, I wanted to know, I lost track of you in the 80s, once, you know, I got out of high school and everything, and I guess I just want to know where you've been.
I moved to Europe. I had no idea what happened to you. I used to think about, what happened to Larry Norman? Yeah. Thank you for calling in, Carol, and Larry will give an answer here on the air, okay? Okay. Have a good day. I moved to Europe in around 1980 and started recording over there and producing other artists over there.
In America I had already produced Randy Stonehill and Mark Hurd and some people. And then over in Europe I helped Sheila Walsh. With her first, uh, entry into music, and, and, uh, Alwyn Wall, who I had actually discovered here like ten years before with Malcolm and Alwyn, and I, uh, I actually recorded At their house, I recorded all their songs to show other people, because I thought it was really interesting how gentle these people...
They lived in Sherwood Forest, which I always thought was an imaginary place, but I got to go to Nottingham. Nottingham, and go to Sherwood Forest, and uh... Yeah, so that's what I was doing during the first part of the 80s, was living in Europe. Okay, and that's something I'd like to talk about. I was talking about with, uh, I guess, is, is, Kerry is your right hand man?
Maybe is the best way to put it. Yeah, he's, yeah. He's, he's with us, uh, I mean, he's in the area with, in conjunction with the concert. He's sleeping right now. Or maybe he's up listening. I don't know, but he, uh, will have the CDs at the concert tomorrow night. Which is something that people need to, uh, to know if you have Larry's albums and you're, you'd love to get them on disc, you can't.
In fact, uh, Kerry mentioned he brought some albums too. If people just want to get newer versions of the albums. We've got some vinyl that's not, you know, been available for years and we've got CDs that have never been out. And you can't get them all at the store. You can, I think you can only get two or three titles at most stores.
Yeah. And, but in Europe you can get a lot more at the stores. Over here in America, I don't know, uh, I've always had problems getting in Christian stores over here. Why do you think that is? I think I have a bad reputation with a lot of people because they thought like I was in league with the devil for so many years.
I mean, I started in 1956. Okay. And it wasn't until 15 years later, 1971, that Christian, contemporary Christian music was even accepted. And it was a few more years before they even put any of my records in the stores. And so by 1975, I was finally able to start my own label and distribute it through Word.
So that's a long time, 1956 to 1975. Twenty years. Yeah, twenty years. So, I think during that time I just picked up a lot of negative, uh... It's like my... We were listening to the radio in the car one day and my mom says, oh, that's a nice song. Who's that? I said, that's the Rolling Stones. She said the Rolling Stones Didn't they do something bad once?
Yeah, I started laughing. Yeah. What do you think they did mom? She's well, didn't they all try to kill themselves or something? So she didn't know anything about him. She just had a negative association with them. And I think that's what happened to me. I was attacked from the pulpit for so many years, and there were Christian books which also attacked me in one of the chapters, specifically by name, where nobody else has ever been attacked like that, as being, you know, a tool of Satan.
So I think that I just have a terrible reputation. In a lot of program directors minds, but as time goes by and younger people come into the, you know, Christian radio, I'm sure I'll get played on Christian radio. People who know better. Yeah. It's, uh, 6. 55 on The Morning Show, and the reason I even, I was just saying, I was talking with Kerry last night, uh, about the, the gap that, that some people, uh, I consider myself the average fan who grew up on your music.
Knows many of the songs, and yet knows very little about Larry Norman, the person. And not that it's important to know what you have on your cheeseburgers or something like that, or that you don't eat cheeseburgers, but that whole idea of why is it that Larry seems so outspoken and willing to share his life through his music, and willing to tell people who are against it.
This devil, Christian music stuff. Why is he willing to be so bold there? And yet, why do I know so little about him? Or why, and, and, and we were talking about that last night. And we'll get into that in a couple of moments. Uh, our traffic weenie Johnny B is hanging around. Uh huh. You're just listening in, aren't you, John?
Absolutely. Getting an education like everybody else. Absolutely. It's a really cool two pronged attack we have here. If folks are familiar with Larry's music, they get to just enjoy hearing from him directly, or talking with him at 800 990 WORD. If you have no idea who Larry is, like you're newer to Christian music...
You can get an education as to where, uh, this all got it's, uh, it's start. Larry, are you running on empty, or are you just normally this quiet? Uh, am I being quiet? Yes. Oh, I thought I was talking too much. No, you're not! Okay, well I'll start getting into the groove of things here on WVDD! West of the Schuylkill, running slow, University through south, then jam at the boulevard.
Out through Gleb when there's an accident off on the side. A lot of equipment remains on the scene. Schuylkill East. It is 7 o'clock at WZZD, Philadelphia. Timothy and Larry Norman sharing a bagel brought in by Bagel Bird. He's, uh, one of our faithful listeners. Bagel Burt. Bagel Burt stopped by. Ha ha ha!
Has a couple of nice big bags. Thank you, Burt, for doing so. Uh, we appreciate that. We have, uh, Rob from Willow Grove we're gonna get to, uh, in a couple of seconds here. Uh, in fact, uh, Rob, why don't I bring you into the conversation? Uh, you can ask your question. And, um, and then we'll, we have a song we wanna get on to.
Good morning. Thanks for calling in. Hi Larry. Hi. I'm a huge fan of yours. I'm glad to be seeing you tomorrow. Um, but I had noticed something about your music. Um, since I am such a big fan, I've noticed a little bit of a change or switch in your music. Um, especially in the last album, um, Stranded in Babylon.
It seemed like you focused a little bit more on grace. And it seems like there's been a little bit of a change in your music. And I wonder how... Your relationship with God has changed how you write music over the last few years. Well, the first 40 years, uh, is that what you mean? There's been a change now after 40 years?
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I learned more than I knew at the beginning. What happened to me was, uh, I found out that God is a loving Father. I had always been taught and believed everything that I was taught because I wanted to grow up to be a nice, strong... Christian soldier marching onward as to war. And so I was very serious about my Christianity for years but thought that God was also very solemn and judicious figure who was watching at all times and was very disappointed with mankind and couldn't look upon sin so therefore could not look upon us and that Jesus had been sent to earth as the only consideration that God had given us.
I didn't know that God was personally working in our life daily. I thought that was the Holy Spirit working. But as far as the Father, I thought that the Father... was as, uh, remote as I sometimes felt that my father was. My father did not like what I was doing. He thought that this Christian music was not Christian.
He thought that I was completely wrong to be doing it, and that it was, it was evil. He didn't think that I was evil. He just thought I had been tricked somehow by Satan into doing this evil music, and that I was going to hurt a lot of people. So he didn't understand. So when people would say, God is our father, I think, well, yeah, I'm sure he's disappointed in me, just like my dad.
So, I think a lot of people have this problem, if they have a bad relationship with their father in particular, then for them to understand that God is a father full of understanding and support, it's difficult for them. So that's what the really big difference is, that I found out, wow, I was totally wrong.
God loves all of us personally and intimately, and he's not... Angry with us. He loves us. That was a big shock to me after all those years of being a Christian and, uh, leading other people to the Lord. You know, I knew Jesus loved me, but I didn't know that the Father loved us, too. Thanks, Rob. Does that answer your question pretty good?
What? Did that answer your question? That, that did. It's a wonderful thing to know. Yeah. Yeah. Thanks, Rob, and we'll see you at the concert tomorrow night. Thank you. Alright. It's happening at the Christian Cinema in Ambler. 215 628 4634 is the number. 215 628 4634. Let's see, I think we have, uh, Matt, are you still there?
Yeah. Matt from Langhorne just wanted to say hey and get a request in. Yeah, um, I'd like to hear UFO. Okay. And, uh, you sound like a rather young listener. How old are you, Matt? Uh, twelve. Okay. You've grown up, uh, your family enjoys Larry's music? Is that how you kind of... Got introduced to it. Yeah. Okay. Any particular reason you just like that song?
Uh, anything behind the song you like or just the Not quite, basically just the music and the words. Okay. Well that's kind of the whole element of the song there. Thanks for calling in Matt. Have a good day. Okay. Okay. Okay. Well, uh, we'll put that one in. You know, this song, u f o, that they won't play it in Europe because they think that U F O is a, a, um, an occult.
Oh, really? Uh, you know, They think the devil has beguiled people into thinking there's people in outer space. And I try to explain what the song is. It's just a church. I mean, they... They call it UFO. And they believe it's a satanic, uh, um, uh, strange, you know, still going on and things haven't completely changed in the church in different countries.
I, I, I can believe it. I can believe it. People, you gotta get out of your own, uh, Frame of reference. I mean, things aren't always done the way Americans do things, or the way things are thought here. So, let's slip that in here, and we'll take some more calls, too. Folks want to talk with Larry, you're more than welcome to 800 990 9673 for ZZD.
He's Christian Music, 990 WZZD. To UFO from In Another Land, Part 3 of the trilogy. Larry Norman on the morning show at 707. Larry's in studio with us. You're welcome to call in at 800 990 WORD and say hey and ask questions or just give words of encouragement or whatever. I believe we have a Gil from Lansdale on the car phone.
Morning Gil. Hey, how you doing? Good, how are you? Good, good. Just wanted to offer a word of encouragement to Larry. Go right ahead. I just, um... I just can't say enough about what a blessing you've been in my life. I mean, I'm, I'm 38, I first saw you in concert when you were 16 at the Christian Cinema. And, um, then you sang a song.
I, I did, I saw this guy with the long hair who had never been invited to my church. And, and then, but when he started to minister his music, I mean, I remember people were taking pictures and flash pictures, and you were just like clowning around on the stage like, Okay, okay, everybody done. You know, and then you started singing.
But you sang the outlaw. And I'll tell you, I have, Today I'm a, I'm a chaplain at, at, at the prison ministry. And I've used that in so many messages, uh, The Outlaw, and uh, you've just blessed my life in a big way, and I saw you again when you were in Harleysville, and I really thank you for your ministry and the blessing you've been to so many people.
Thank you. Thanks very much. Gil, thanks for calling in. Alright, have a great day, guys. Alright, you too. Uh, who else do we have here, uh, Al from Ambler. Good morning, Al. Good morning. How you doing? Good. Fire away. I just wanted to let, uh, Larry know that, you know, I became a Christian in 88, shortly thereafter somebody, you know, let me into the Larry Norman experience, so to speak.
You know, and his music really influenced me in the fact that I could really, I could really hear the gospel in your message, you know, me to know what the Bible had to offer. You know, and I was really blessed by that, and I could just feel the power of Christ coming out of it. And just a quick question that I had was about, when you first started in your ministry, and you received a lot of opposition from the church and from people around you, what verse in the Bible, or what kept you going, what knew you were doing the Lord's will?
It wasn't my idea to do it. It wasn't my idea to go into music. It was my idea to get these kids at my school to come to church, but they wouldn't do it. So, I, uh, I felt that it's right, the Bible says, to witness in season and out of season. So I was witnessing to them at school, and, and when people started saying, what you're doing is wrong, I thought, it's not wrong to witness.
And when people said, this kind of music is not right, I thought, well, this, This music is about God, and you may not want to hear it, because it's liberating, too, but it's about God. And, you know, it was the kids wanted to hear it, not because it was rock, but because I was actually trying to give them something that I wasn't getting in my church experience, which was freedom.
I did not want them to think, or to experience, this aspect of Christianity, which was you were coming into, uh, A, you know, a domination from, uh, authority figures. When you become a Christian, you have to submit yourself to people that are telling you, uh, you can't wear those shoes. You've got to, you know, shine them.
Um, you have to comb your hair a certain way, and this is back in the fifties, you know, and, and most kids were already assimilating themselves into young adults by doing what they were told to do. But there were kids that wore jeans all the time. I, I grew up in a, a slum. I didn't even know it was a slum until we moved to a ghetto and then I found out, oh, we're poor, you know, and, uh, and we, you know, we had raggedy clothes, uh, blue jeans, uh, um, used shoes, you know, so, but some people act like, well, you're not dressed right to come to church.
So I didn't want people to, to, to, uh, continue to assume what they already, Believed from our culture was that to be a Christian, you had to have a nice set of clothes and you had to look right, you had to think right, and you, you know, there was no room for an individual's personality. So that's really what was embedded in these songs.
These songs are psychologically written to, to encourage people on different levels. Um, it was, that was what I felt my primary mission was, besides giving the gospel, was to also offer freedom for people, to let them know that if they're going to follow God, they weren't going to have to follow men. They were going to follow Jesus.
Thanks for calling in Al. You're welcome. Appreciate it. Have a great day. All right. Bye. Bye folks can come by. We're chatting with Larry Norman Grandfather father or whatever a founding father. I guess is the best way to put it of contemporary Christian music Larry's been doing it for many many years many many albums and three hours is not enough to jam in songs and comments and all That but we're doing our best here We're of course welcoming your calls or your chance to to chat with Larry this morning at 800 990 96, 73, Larry, uh, we have a couple more calls on hold which I'd like to get to in a moment, but how about we slip on another song?
Uh, Upon This Rock, is that, what's the first one you, you put out as far as Christian music goes? Is that the 100% Christian capital let me do this album the way I wanted to do. They didn't You know, have any problems with it by 1969. So this was the very first 100% album that I had control over. On here, some of the songs folks will remember.
Um, Walking Backwards Down the Stairs, Ha Ha World, Sweet Song of Salvation, Rebecca St. James mentioned it, it's covered that. Uh, Forget Your Hexagram, another one. Wish We'd All Been Ready, which we've played. Nothing Really Changes, and I thought we'd slip on You Can't Take Away the Lord. I thought that, that's a fun song, one of the ones I remember growing up on too.
Uh huh. And uh, why don't we slip that on here, we'll come back and... Chat with Larry Norman on The Morning Show. Today's Christian Music 990 WZZD. You can't take away the Lord from, uh, what... Larry, would I be right in saying the first, people would say in general, is considered the first Christian album ever?
Uh, yeah. Period. Well, Christian rock, I mean, there was gospel quartet albums. Right. And before that, there was... You know, and before that, and before that. Yeah. Well, there you go, folks. And you can buy, I believe this is, uh, you guys have brought copies of this and many other, uh, of your albums that folks are familiar with, uh, who are familiar with your work.
Uh, the concert happening at the Christian Cinema tomorrow night, seven o'clock. I'll be there helping MC and just get things going and Larry will take over and Larry loves to do what he's doing this morning, which is share music and stories and kind of go back and forth, right? Well, I don't really talk like this in a concert.
This is a radio show. That's true. Well, yeah, okay, there are different things, but one of the things we should mention for folks, and you can get more info, 215 628 4634 215 is, uh, you encourage for folks who are thinking about coming or maybe inviting a friend to go out, uh, to make it an evangelistic thing.
I know you love to share the gospel at these, uh, concerts that you do. Yeah, I think a lot of Christians are afraid to take their friends to a Christian concert because sometimes, uh, they're embarrassed by what happens at the concert, which you never think about until you're there with somebody. Who's your friend who's not a Christian and then you go, oh my gosh, and I didn't realize the you know It's like going to a movie with your mom or dad and suddenly someone's wearing this.
Oh my gosh, they're swearing. Yeah, someone's kissing. Whoops Yeah, so I for some reason people bring There are friends to my concerts because I they say that I never embarrass them. I never let them down They feel like it was music. It was entertaining. It was thoughtful and also spiritual and and it wasn't like Talking with a used car salesman that they really felt that it was a normal natural presentation of Christ.
So that's nice I mean, I'm glad that I'm doing something that people Thinking I'm doing a good, you know, whatever. Yeah, yeah. Tomorrow night, 7 o'clock, Christian Cinema, Ambler, 215 628 4634. We now bring in Todd from Warrington into the equation. Good morning, Todd. Good morning. Thanks for hanging on there.
How you doing? Doing quite well, thank you. Sure. Larry, it's great to have you in Philly. And, uh, I was just wondering, looking forward to seeing you tomorrow night. Uh, I was wondering if you might be able to squeeze the tune into your set list tomorrow night. And I was also wondering what you thought your best work was, both, uh, lyrically and musically.
Oh, well, different in the sixties upon this rock in the seventies, uh, only visiting this planet and in another land in the, I can jump ahead to the nineties, stranded in Babylon. Uh, different, different eras. I feel like I've, okay. This album is really capturing what people are going through. You know, I wouldn't, I mean, I wish I could make every album, uh, as good as I, as I, I mean, it is as good as I can, but I just, Sometimes I feel like, oh, okay, now I've stumbled.
And maybe it's because I've been thinking about this for a long time, and after doing several albums, I finally conclude. You know, with a new album that kind of sums up what I've been working away at. It's like if you're sculpting something, the whole time you're sculpting, the rock is changing. And you could stop at any time, and people would call it art.
But until you're satisfied and make the definitive version, you know, finally chip away that last piece of stone, people don't say, Oh, that's, don't do anymore. That's, that's, you know. So, being in, in the, you know, a lot of people who do music are not really artists. They're artisans. They're creating a craft.
It's like making shoes. They make really good shoes, make really good albums. They're not trying to do much more than make a good shoe, you know. I'm hoping to make supernatural shoes, and it's really hard because I'm just a human. Thanks for calling in. Very good, thanks. Appreciate it. Have a good day, Todd.
See you at the show tomorrow night. Uh, let's see, who do we have here? I believe it's, uh, is this Joe? Hi. Joe from Florence. Yes. Go right ahead. Good morning. Good morning. I was just going to, I wanted to thank Larry for his faithfulness and his willingness to serve God, no matter what the rest of the world was saying about him in the early 70s.
I remember I discovered his music in secular records. I didn't find it in Christian bookstores when I was in college, freshman in college. Larry's laughing, he's seen that story before. Yeah, and when I, when I was telling the person I talked to earlier that a lot of people got to listen to Larry Norman whether they wanted to or not because I opened my dorm room and let it blast.
It was really great because a lot of them would come and ask what kind of music that was I was playing. It even, it even touched them. It was, it was great music. But I had, uh, two questions. Actually, one of them's mine. I was wondering, Larry mentioned about a lot of other albums he's made, especially over in Europe.
I was wondering if those could be made available on his website. I know I visited there, and it's a lot of his old stuff's there, but I didn't see a lot of newer stuff. That was the first question. The second question was from my son. He's 12 years old, and he's a Larry Norman fan. He's been pulling out my old LPs, listening to them, and he really, really likes the music.
Just wanted you to know, Larry, your music's timeless. Oh, thank you. Because it's God, God inspired. And so, just keep it, keep it going. But he was wondering what the inspiration was behind Fly, Fly, Fly. All right. Thank you for calling, Joe. We'll, uh, you can, we'll hang up and you can listen on the radio, okay?
Okay, thanks. Great. Thanks a lot. Uh, yeah. The first thing is that the European stuff is available, uh, coming up, uh, on the website. And also, you could write to the, uh, To the company and in Oregon and and get European stuff like the new album. That's already out in Europe and fly fly fly It's it's a song about traveling trying, you know trying to do What God wants you to do in your life, do your job.
And then, and then at the same time, wanting to be home with your family instead of always being, catching an airplane and going somewhere else. It's, it's trying to achieve a balance between, uh, you know, fly, fly, fly is like a, uh, well, you fly, don't you? Uh, do I fly? , ? It's a's a hell of a plane. Yes. It's a, it's a special feeling to, to be up in the air.
Oh, well, that's, you're one of your friends who's in town with us, uh, who's visiting? Oh, yeah. Well, he likes, well, he's a pilot. He, well, he skydives. Yeah, he skydives too. Yeah. Yeah. Why not? But, uh, when you're flying, it's a special thing, so you wanna, you wanna, you know, run and not be worried and be lifted up, like, you know it, like on s uh, wings of Eagles, and, but at the same time, you wanna be down on the earth and.
And with your family. So, it's just about being caught between the heavenly, uh, hopes and the, the earthly, uh, necessities of life. Let's, uh, also, we got, uh, I want to slip a song in here, uh, in a moment, but let's, uh, take care of, I believe it's, is it, uh, Jane in Langhorne? John. John. Oh, sorry. It's, uh, couldn't read the writing here.
Go ahead, John. Okay, hey. Hi, Larry. Hi. Um, I, I saw you every time you were in Philadelphia in the past. Uh, But because, uh, uh, well, the way things are today, I won't be able to see you tomorrow, but anyway. Uh, I just wanted to let you know that when I got saved in 76, I was, you know, just an old hippie drug addict that was in a drug rehab in a Christian home.
And they had, uh, some old amps sitting around, and one of them was, must have been yours, I guess. But it had yours, you know, it had, um, it was a compilation of other artists. But they had, uh, you know, which we'd all been ready on. and on it. And so I was listening to it and uh, and this guy who was on staff at the time comes in the room and rips the thing off the stereo, smashes it in front of us and starts screaming that we were listening to the Devil's music.
And I said, this is ridiculous, . Wow. What's going on? It's a Christian home. It's a Christian album. What do you mean the devil's music? And it was all because of your song? Yeah. And I just want to encourage. That part of you, you know, that this is great, you know, you are doing exactly what you say in your lyrics.
You're just standing up for the Lord. But you know, something happened in the 80s. I don't know what it was, but I started hearing rumors about you. And I just didn't know what to believe because you weren't around. And I, I heard earlier that you went off to Europe. So, I didn't keep track with you in the 80s.
And now I'm hearing you back in town now. And I heard like a year ago or so, you had the heart problem. And I'm... Yeah. I hate to hear your pattern. We will get into that in a little bit, John. Thank you for calling in, okay? No problem. We're gonna talk about that. That's one reason we'd love to have you on is just to be able to do that.
Uh, I'll tell you what, we're at 724. Can I slip in up in Canada? Okay. That's a personal favorite song of mine. Oh, right. I've enjoyed. It's, uh, So Long Ago in the Garden. We'll come back after this. We have Traffic and Weather with Johnny B. And we'll, uh, take your calls at 800 990 WORD. Larry Norman, the... Uh, the founding father of contemporary Christian music in the studio with us this morning and doing a concert tomorrow night at the Christian Cinema in Ambler.
800 990 9673 for more info on any of those things, or if you'd like to chat with Larry this morning on ZZD. Today's Christian music, 990 WZZD from so long ago in the garden. That's, uh, up in Canada.
Note: The text is created by a voice to text app, so not at all accurate until I work my way through it all.
[Starts over the ending to Why Don't You Look Into Jesus]
Six-o-four on the morning show, Jimmy Dee and Why Don't You Look Into Jesus. Morning everybody, we're eh pleased, happy, thankful that Larry Norman is with us in the studio. Morning Larry
Hi
Thanks for coming in
Yeah
You're even awake almost
Yeah
Larry has been aptly titled the founding father of christian music and eh, that was one of the songs a lotta folks grew up on, including myself. Larry eh, got in last night and eh, and normally I guess you're getting, you're more of a night owl so
Yeah this is not bad huh, yeah
It's not too bad though for ya
No sometimes I'm up this late just writing songs. I like, I like being up at night when everybody else is asleep, it's so peaceful
You have a good flight?
Hm-Hmm
Any problems?
No, no [Hesistantly]
Okay
We landed
That's always a positive. I dunno, maybe a good way to start would be, in a way from the beginning just to give folks a context of where you're, where you're coming from, em, people would probably recognise, eh, your first group.
Is this like a talk show, this is a three hour talk show or?
We're gonna mix in some songs as we go and
Why don't you play another song
You want me to do that
Yeah
Alright, let's do that. I have eh
It get's boring when people just talk and talk so I, I don't wanna start off their drive to work by doing this to them
Okay, alright, well we'll do that then. One of our favourites is eh Reader's Digest
Okay
Would that be cool with you?
Hm-hmm
Okay
[Reader's Digest]
Today's christian music nine ninety WZZD, Reader's Digest. Larry Norman, six thirteen on the morning show. 800-990-9673 is our number if you would like to get involved in the conversation. Eh, it's been a long eh, it's been a long week just getting ready so please bear with me personally in the first few moments just getting ourselves together. We have to actually do a little bit of a special set up for this to all happen this morning so I'm just actually testing out a couple of the buttons and stuff like that to make sure we have access to all the stuff that we need.
Larry, that's a really cool song and that's one of the ones I love to play in the morning just for the energy sake, the quick wit that comes through in your lyrics and stuff. Eh, I don't know if you remember what led you to write that song or how you got the thing together, very timely, captured the time very well, what was going on that time.
Yeah well I, I thought about a lot of things all the time but usually a song develops only one idea for the whole song. So I wanted to eh talk about a lot of different things so I decided to write a song that I could talk about a bunch of things, not just one thing but a lot of things. So I, I wrote that song, and eh, I remember reading Reader's Digest when I was in school and I thought there's just so many articles in this magazine, so that's why I called the song Reader's Digest, because there's so many ideas in the song.
Did it take you a long time to craft the song like that, 'cause I think the lyrics are very clever?
Nah, it doesn't take any time at all. I don't know why but it's just easy to write a song. If you said go in the other room and write a song I'd just go and think oh I got an idea for a song and I just, it just comes right out.
Okay. It's interesting because you capture a lot of things in that, in that that would, you know, it seems like it would take a while to maybe come up with. You were with the group People?
Hm-hmm, yeah
Some folks will obviously know about and then eh, how long were you with the band there and...
Two years
Okay
Yeah
And then...
Yeah I couldn't find any, any eh christians who could play instruments. In fact most christians thought that rock and roll was of the devil, so really I had no way of getting a band together and then I, and then I met a couple of Jewish boys and eh one Catholic and eh, a guy who had been raised Mormon but he never had really gone to church but a few times, so but so he said he was a Mormon but he wasn't you know. So it was kind of hard being in a group with people that didn't understand what I wanted to do but they would, they were happy to, to do whatever. I mean I was the person that wrote most of the songs and Capitol, actually it's a good thing they started writing songs because Capitol didn't really want to release all my songs.
Hmmm
Em, so we ended up doing a lot of material that the rest of the guys had written and, but that was ironic too because a couple of years later Capitol offered me a solo contract doing nothing but christian songs. So I did Upon This Rock, did I Wish We'd All Been Ready and, and eh Sweet Song Of Salvation and a bunch of songs like that. So even though Capitol didn't like it at first they were actually the first label to ever release any christian rock music. And I'd been writing it since I was young so I felt really eh, glad that I could be on Capitol Records all those years.
So you were a christian when you were in People?
Yeah well I was five I became a christian and, and eh when I was nine I began singing at school and, and eh, and so I started talking to kids at school and getting, trying to get them to come. Actually that's why I started writing these songs, was because I couldn't get kids to come to church with me. Probably, I didn't think of it at the time was they're kids, they have to get their parents to give them permission or they'd have to get their parents to come to church you know. Ah, most nine year old kids are not gonna tell their parents I'm going to church whether you like it or not, right? So anyway, nobody would go to church with me. When I was in the fourth grade I decided I'm gonna bring church to the, to the kids, I'm gonna start singing at lunch hour. So I was very, I wouldn't say I was ambitious, it really had nothing to do with music for years. It was all about Jesus, it was about being a missionary and that's what I wanted to be, but I just started doing it at school in my own country, you know instead of going to Africa which is where I kind of thought all the missionaries used to go. 'Cause I thought well that's where the people don't wear any clothes and I think the missionaries feel that it's their job to go make 'em wear clothes and tell them about God. But I didn't see why they had to wear clothes, couldn't believe even if you had a loin cloth on? Why do you have to wear, you know.
Alright
American clothes
The innocent thoughts of a nine year old coming through. It's six nineteen on the morning show, eh Timmy Dee with Larry Norman in the studio, we're very glad he's here with us, the guy that got the whole ball of wax rolling so to speak in contemporary christian music. We're gonna throw on a couple more songs and in the near future here I'll take some calls, 800-990 Word. Em, my laptop is in another room and my laptop has all of your CDs except Only Visiting This Planet, which we just played a song from.
Ah ha
Now we could burn through all the great ones on this one and then go get my laptop. But what I think I'll do is I'll put one on here, I'll go get my laptop, we'll come back and
[Why Should The Devil have All The Good Music]
What is your, maybe this is a tough question. Is there a favourite song you have Larry or favourite group of songs that you enjoy doing or you get the most response out of or, there's so many to pick from obviously?
It just depends what I'm trying to em do at the time. You mean when I'm singing in concert?
Ah yeah maybe I'm, maybe I should ask two separate questions. Do you personally, do you have a song that you eh, you still enjoy turning the stereo on and enjoying listening to it?
I'm not usually listening to my music.
Okay
But eh, if I was gonna put on something from eh, this period you're talk, playing right now which is the sixties, from that album I would play I Wish We'd All Been Ready.
Okay, which DC Talk have covered and folks are familiar with that.
Yeah, hm-hmm.
Any particular reason behind that song for you that's?
Yeah I read in the bible that Jesus was coming back to earth but at the time I had never really heard a sermon preached about it for all those years that I had gone to church so I decided well nobody's talking about this but it's in the bible so I'm going to write a song about it and then a couple years later it seemed like everybody was talking about the return of Christ, and I thought oh that's good, people are thinking about that now instead of imagining that christianity is just a way of life that goes on and on and that's just what you do for the rest of eternity, that people need to remember that there's not only eternity that exists beyond this, this level that we're living on now but also Jesus is also coming back some day to stop the end of recorded history and to rewrite it with a new beginning. So that's what the song was about and em most people thought this was about world war three when I wrote it, they didn't really know what, that it was about Jesus coming back, they just thought it was about the end of the world, world war three.
Okay, yeah.
That's what people used to think about in those days. From the fifties on, you know people had, had covered over their swimming pools and made bomb shelters out of them during the fifties, 'cause they were afraid the Russians were going to attack any moment, world war three was gonna destroy the earth.
Ha you, you've probably seen it all. I dunno if Johnny Dee is with us yet, hey there John, morning..
Morning
Eh who was it, John's our traffic weanie we call him. What was, what was the phrase we said yesterday John at the end of the program when I was mentioning Larry would be with us this morning, the eh three people, the, we rattled them off earlier, the guy did the radio?
Oh the three most important people in broadcasting?
Yeah.
Ah, God number one.
Right.
Number two Marconi and, and number three you're pal 'cause he invented, you know contemporary christian music.
Hahaha Marconi.
What was that?
Yesterday when I was mentioning you'd be here this morning
Oh
He eh, he said the three most important people, obviously the Lord at the top of the heap and then eh Marconi was the guy who invented radio?
That's correct.
Okay.
And then you because you invented contemporary christian music and the, and the genre.
Hahahaha.
So eh, you're in good company.
Haha well eh, that's nice.
Where is this guy going with what? You'll get into the groove later. I'm completely whacked.
Oh
That's all you need to know.
Okay.
That's right, John is whack.
I am from deep left centre field
Hahahaha
Usually outta the park.
How are things going my man?
It's good going west ?? ninety five south, a little slow as you're moving through Gerrard into Jersey. Forty two, a little slow at free flow on the way.......
It is six twenty nine on the morning show with Jimmy Dee and Larry Norman in the studio where we now go to Bruce on eh, caller number eight.
Yeah.
Hey Bruce.
How you doing?
Very good.
Well Larry I just wanted to let you know I thank God for your courage to take the stand that you did, when you did. I became a christian in 1979, grew up listening to all the 1970s rock bands. And so when I became a christian I kind of went away from that and someone said hey, I have someone I want you to listen to, and they gave me a Larry Norman tape. And eh, I thought well, I'm home now. So, thank you very much for your music sir.
Yeah, you're welcome, yeah.
Also if you're just joining us now and you don't know who Larry is, maybe you're newer to christian music, Larry is the, the you know, kind of trunk of the tree as far as contemporary christian music goes and in a very real sense where there is even a WZZD to wake up to in the morning. He's gonna be doing a concert tomorrow night at the Christian Cinema in Ambler, and eh, we're just very pleased to be able to have him here this morning. If nothing else you can get a real history lesson as to what contemporary christian music is all about. We can chat with Larry some more this morning about that but we want to make sure we work in some songs. We were talking about Why Don't You Look Into Jesus, no, I Wish We'd All Been Ready was the one that you had mentioned before the break there so I'm gonna put that on and then we'll take some calls too, 800-991, very good.
Alright.
Alright, Larry Norman on the morning show, I Wish We'd All Been Ready. Some folks may be familiar with this one too as far as DC Talk has covered this and there's some other songs that folks have covered on a tribute album to Larry that was out a few years ago, you'll recognise some of these songs as we go along. Jimmy Dee, six thirty one.
[I Wish We'd All Been Ready]
This is christian music 990-WZZD. I Wish We'd All Been Ready, that's Larry Norman. We've played several songs this morning from Only Visiting This Planet, including Reader's Digest and Why Should The Devil Have All The Good Music. Eh, Why Should The Devil Have All The Good Music was covered by Geoff Moore. He's been doing that one for a long time actually.
Yeah ten years, gosh
Have you had a chance to talk with the folks who've covered your songs?
Well I've had over 300 cover songs so I didn't get to talk to everybody.
How do people go about doing that as far as royalties go and having to contact you first?
No they don't contact me, they contact Capitol Records. Capitol Records helped me by doing publishing for most of the years. So Sammy Davis Junior even sang a song, Petula Clark, some of the old people you know. Jack Jones was like Frank Sinatra type singer. Jack Jones did I Wish We'd All Been Ready as a matter of fact, which I couldn't imagine. At the time my stuff came out I couldn't, no christian label would have anything to do with me, I had to be on, I had to be on Capitol Records and MGM Records for about ah eight years, nine years because no christian company did anything like this kind of music and they didn't even believe it was christian for many years. So when Jack Jones did I Wish We'd All Been Ready it blew my mind. Because he was a cabaret singer. But at the end of the song he said instead of there's no time to change your mind, the son has come and you've been left behind.
Right.
He said there's no time to change your mind the son has come and we've been left behind, we've been left behind. So he actually thought the song was about Christ coming the first time and that we just didn't listen to him and now we've all been left behind in this world that we've created full of you know potential destruction and so. And then he had a theremin on the end going woo-oo-oo woo-oo. So it was like an outer space song and Jesus came and now he's gone because we killed him and, you know that wasn't exactly the meaning of the song.
No I guess that's the risk you run, the creative liberty some people may take. Eh 800-990-9673 if you would like to [Fades out]
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It is 6:41 on the morning show with Timmy Dee and Larry Norman in the studio with us enjoying some time together today. We're going to throw on some songs here in a couple of seconds but first we have a couple calls Larry, eh let's see, Paul on the cell phone, morning Paul.
Good morning Timmy Dee, how you doing?
Very good.
Alright. Larry Norman, nice to hear from you.
Yeah thank you.
Nice, nice to have you in the studio. My question basically is since you've been in Europe, do you find that the people there are more dependant to look for God or more dependant to find somebody to help them, whereas here in America because our government helps us so much and we have so much here in America we're a little bit slow for instance and we don't eh look for someone like God to help us as everyday daily living?
Yeah interesting question, and the answer would be yes and no. The people in other countries are actually helped more by their government than we are. They have a lot of social, socialised medicine, unemployment is socialised. But, even though they are reliant upon their government more than we permitted to be, they reach out for God in a different way than we do because they don't live in a culture that's eh religious culture. For someone in Holland to become a christian is more frowned upon by society than it is in our country. If you're a christian over here you get to know a lot more people but in places like Holland and England the percentage of people who go to church is like 2%. And out of that the percentage of people are true christians would be even less than 2%. So it's much harder and more deliberate a choice to make to become a christian in European countries than it is in America.
Alright Paul, thanks for calling in.
And thank you. I'd just like to say I like to listen to his music 'cause it's clear and it brings your thought messages out.
Oh thanks you, thanks.
Thank you.
Thanks Paul. Moving along also now to John in Hapbro there, are you there John?
Ah yeah it's me.
Welcome aboard.
Hey Larry, just wanna say eh, the one song you wrote And We Sing The Tune, I had that sung at my wedding and it really meant a lot to me and my wife and you've meant a lot to me over the years and I just wondered if there's any story behind that song.
Eh it's, it's exactly what a lot of us feel about falling in love with somebody who we can be with forever. It is eh, we feel in a way undeserving of real love and surprised by it and we find that we're singing a similar tune to this person that we've met, that we've never heard anybody else sing except ourselves and so we're both singing the same tune and she seems to know the harmon y and and the words and everything just seems to, to fit. And this is what God wants is for us to find a partner who we can share our life with. It doesn't happen to all of us unfortunately, it's, it's really a longing in our hearts that isn't always satisfied but we always have Jesus even if we don't find a partner for our whole life. But that's what song's about and I'm glad you played it at your wedding, that's nice. It's kind of a testimonial to other people too.
Thanks for calling in John.
Okay thanks.
Appreciate it.
Bye Larry.
Bye bye.
Well eh, what song, I'm sorry I was busy getting a couple things.
Eh it's a song that it's really not been on a record yet but.
Oh really.
I think it was on, I don't know, I can't remember. You know I've had, I've done like 42 or 43 albums, not counting what I just did this last couple of years and eh. And then there's other bootlegs and all kinds of stuff that are out so.
Yeah.
Sometimes I don't know where people, I know I recorded this song, oh I did this song once on a live album.
Okay.
So that's probably where he heard it.
But the titles, do you remember the title, I didn't catch the title?
And We Sing The Tune. There's a song called The Tune which is a long parable, a long story but then there's a song which goes into it, And We Sing The Tune and then I go into The Tune later and I.
Okay.
I don't always sing 'em both together at the same time but this is kind of a love song he's talking about.
Larry Norman on the morning show
[25:55]
Larry Norman's on the Morning Show at 646. Let's put on a tune right now. One of the songs that I know a lot of folks grew up on and enjoy is The Rock That Doesn't Roll. We'll slip that on here. If you'd like to join our conversation, feel free. 800 990 9673. 990 9673 for ZZD and, uh, uh, also, we'll be giving away some tickets, so keep that number close by.
Uh, a little later on in the program, we'll have tickets to give away for the show tomorrow night, The Christian Sentiment in Ambler. Today's Christian Music, 990 W ZZD, Larry Norman, The Rock That Doesn't Roll, at 6. 50 on the morning show at Timmy D and, uh, Larry in the studio with us. Again, if you'd like to...
Uh, call in 800 990 WORDS, our number. You can also, uh, give 215 628 4634 a call. That's the number for the Christian Cinema in Ambler. Larry will be there tomorrow night, beginning at 7 o'clock. It's right off exit 26, Fort Washington exit of the Pennsylvania Turnpike. Very easy to get to. And, uh, you know, they can give you directions if you need to, if you haven't been there before.
215 628 4634, I'll be there too, and hopefully we'll get to meet some of the folks in the listening audience. Uh, Larry's taking some calls today, and playing some music, and, um, you have some new music coming out too, Larry. Uh, new CDs that are, uh, coming out in a matter of weeks, or what's happening? Yeah, by three weeks from now, people will have them, the people that have written to the company to get them.
Yeah, there'll be a... Available next week and it'll take a couple weeks for them to get him excellent. Yeah, I heard that So there's a couple it's a double album called breathe in breathe out. Okay, there's a studio. Yeah studio There's another studio album called copper wires and there's a another album called shouting in the storm, which is actually a live Concert I just did over in Europe with a band and that's Already out in Europe.
Okay. Very good. Uh, we have, let's see, Carol from Oakland on the phone. Morning, Carol. How are ya? Good morning. Uh, fire away. Well, uh, first of all, I just wanted to thank Lowry for, uh, making such an impression on my life when I was a teenager in the 70s. My cousin and I, when we found your records, we couldn't believe it because all we went to was Christian Quartet stuff, you know?
We grew up with that with our uncle, and he used to take us to these concerts. But when we found Lowry's music, you know, we were thrilled. Um, my uncle wasn't too thrilled at the time, because he didn't believe it was Christian music either, but he did let us listen to it, and eventually he came around. Um, but, uh, second of all, I wanted to know, I lost track of you in the 80s, once, you know, I got out of high school and everything, and I guess I just want to know where you've been.
I moved to Europe. I had no idea what happened to you. I used to think about, what happened to Larry Norman? Yeah. Thank you for calling in, Carol, and Larry will give an answer here on the air, okay? Okay. Have a good day. I moved to Europe in around 1980 and started recording over there and producing other artists over there.
In America I had already produced Randy Stonehill and Mark Hurd and some people. And then over in Europe I helped Sheila Walsh. With her first, uh, entry into music, and, and, uh, Alwyn Wall, who I had actually discovered here like ten years before with Malcolm and Alwyn, and I, uh, I actually recorded At their house, I recorded all their songs to show other people, because I thought it was really interesting how gentle these people...
They lived in Sherwood Forest, which I always thought was an imaginary place, but I got to go to Nottingham. Nottingham, and go to Sherwood Forest, and uh... Yeah, so that's what I was doing during the first part of the 80s, was living in Europe. Okay, and that's something I'd like to talk about. I was talking about with, uh, I guess, is, is, Kerry is your right hand man?
Maybe is the best way to put it. Yeah, he's, yeah. He's, he's with us, uh, I mean, he's in the area with, in conjunction with the concert. He's sleeping right now. Or maybe he's up listening. I don't know, but he, uh, will have the CDs at the concert tomorrow night. Which is something that people need to, uh, to know if you have Larry's albums and you're, you'd love to get them on disc, you can't.
In fact, uh, Kerry mentioned he brought some albums too. If people just want to get newer versions of the albums. We've got some vinyl that's not, you know, been available for years and we've got CDs that have never been out. And you can't get them all at the store. You can, I think you can only get two or three titles at most stores.
Yeah. And, but in Europe you can get a lot more at the stores. Over here in America, I don't know, uh, I've always had problems getting in Christian stores over here. Why do you think that is? I think I have a bad reputation with a lot of people because they thought like I was in league with the devil for so many years.
I mean, I started in 1956. Okay. And it wasn't until 15 years later, 1971, that Christian, contemporary Christian music was even accepted. And it was a few more years before they even put any of my records in the stores. And so by 1975, I was finally able to start my own label and distribute it through Word.
So that's a long time, 1956 to 1975. Twenty years. Yeah, twenty years. So, I think during that time I just picked up a lot of negative, uh... It's like my... We were listening to the radio in the car one day and my mom says, oh, that's a nice song. Who's that? I said, that's the Rolling Stones. She said the Rolling Stones Didn't they do something bad once?
Yeah, I started laughing. Yeah. What do you think they did mom? She's well, didn't they all try to kill themselves or something? So she didn't know anything about him. She just had a negative association with them. And I think that's what happened to me. I was attacked from the pulpit for so many years, and there were Christian books which also attacked me in one of the chapters, specifically by name, where nobody else has ever been attacked like that, as being, you know, a tool of Satan.
So I think that I just have a terrible reputation. In a lot of program directors minds, but as time goes by and younger people come into the, you know, Christian radio, I'm sure I'll get played on Christian radio. People who know better. Yeah. It's, uh, 6. 55 on The Morning Show, and the reason I even, I was just saying, I was talking with Kerry last night, uh, about the, the gap that, that some people, uh, I consider myself the average fan who grew up on your music.
Knows many of the songs, and yet knows very little about Larry Norman, the person. And not that it's important to know what you have on your cheeseburgers or something like that, or that you don't eat cheeseburgers, but that whole idea of why is it that Larry seems so outspoken and willing to share his life through his music, and willing to tell people who are against it.
This devil, Christian music stuff. Why is he willing to be so bold there? And yet, why do I know so little about him? Or why, and, and, and we were talking about that last night. And we'll get into that in a couple of moments. Uh, our traffic weenie Johnny B is hanging around. Uh huh. You're just listening in, aren't you, John?
Absolutely. Getting an education like everybody else. Absolutely. It's a really cool two pronged attack we have here. If folks are familiar with Larry's music, they get to just enjoy hearing from him directly, or talking with him at 800 990 WORD. If you have no idea who Larry is, like you're newer to Christian music...
You can get an education as to where, uh, this all got it's, uh, it's start. Larry, are you running on empty, or are you just normally this quiet? Uh, am I being quiet? Yes. Oh, I thought I was talking too much. No, you're not! Okay, well I'll start getting into the groove of things here on WVDD! West of the Schuylkill, running slow, University through south, then jam at the boulevard.
Out through Gleb when there's an accident off on the side. A lot of equipment remains on the scene. Schuylkill East. It is 7 o'clock at WZZD, Philadelphia. Timothy and Larry Norman sharing a bagel brought in by Bagel Bird. He's, uh, one of our faithful listeners. Bagel Burt. Bagel Burt stopped by. Ha ha ha!
Has a couple of nice big bags. Thank you, Burt, for doing so. Uh, we appreciate that. We have, uh, Rob from Willow Grove we're gonna get to, uh, in a couple of seconds here. Uh, in fact, uh, Rob, why don't I bring you into the conversation? Uh, you can ask your question. And, um, and then we'll, we have a song we wanna get on to.
Good morning. Thanks for calling in. Hi Larry. Hi. I'm a huge fan of yours. I'm glad to be seeing you tomorrow. Um, but I had noticed something about your music. Um, since I am such a big fan, I've noticed a little bit of a change or switch in your music. Um, especially in the last album, um, Stranded in Babylon.
It seemed like you focused a little bit more on grace. And it seems like there's been a little bit of a change in your music. And I wonder how... Your relationship with God has changed how you write music over the last few years. Well, the first 40 years, uh, is that what you mean? There's been a change now after 40 years?
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I learned more than I knew at the beginning. What happened to me was, uh, I found out that God is a loving Father. I had always been taught and believed everything that I was taught because I wanted to grow up to be a nice, strong... Christian soldier marching onward as to war. And so I was very serious about my Christianity for years but thought that God was also very solemn and judicious figure who was watching at all times and was very disappointed with mankind and couldn't look upon sin so therefore could not look upon us and that Jesus had been sent to earth as the only consideration that God had given us.
I didn't know that God was personally working in our life daily. I thought that was the Holy Spirit working. But as far as the Father, I thought that the Father... was as, uh, remote as I sometimes felt that my father was. My father did not like what I was doing. He thought that this Christian music was not Christian.
He thought that I was completely wrong to be doing it, and that it was, it was evil. He didn't think that I was evil. He just thought I had been tricked somehow by Satan into doing this evil music, and that I was going to hurt a lot of people. So he didn't understand. So when people would say, God is our father, I think, well, yeah, I'm sure he's disappointed in me, just like my dad.
So, I think a lot of people have this problem, if they have a bad relationship with their father in particular, then for them to understand that God is a father full of understanding and support, it's difficult for them. So that's what the really big difference is, that I found out, wow, I was totally wrong.
God loves all of us personally and intimately, and he's not... Angry with us. He loves us. That was a big shock to me after all those years of being a Christian and, uh, leading other people to the Lord. You know, I knew Jesus loved me, but I didn't know that the Father loved us, too. Thanks, Rob. Does that answer your question pretty good?
What? Did that answer your question? That, that did. It's a wonderful thing to know. Yeah. Yeah. Thanks, Rob, and we'll see you at the concert tomorrow night. Thank you. Alright. It's happening at the Christian Cinema in Ambler. 215 628 4634 is the number. 215 628 4634. Let's see, I think we have, uh, Matt, are you still there?
Yeah. Matt from Langhorne just wanted to say hey and get a request in. Yeah, um, I'd like to hear UFO. Okay. And, uh, you sound like a rather young listener. How old are you, Matt? Uh, twelve. Okay. You've grown up, uh, your family enjoys Larry's music? Is that how you kind of... Got introduced to it. Yeah. Okay. Any particular reason you just like that song?
Uh, anything behind the song you like or just the Not quite, basically just the music and the words. Okay. Well that's kind of the whole element of the song there. Thanks for calling in Matt. Have a good day. Okay. Okay. Okay. Well, uh, we'll put that one in. You know, this song, u f o, that they won't play it in Europe because they think that U F O is a, a, um, an occult.
Oh, really? Uh, you know, They think the devil has beguiled people into thinking there's people in outer space. And I try to explain what the song is. It's just a church. I mean, they... They call it UFO. And they believe it's a satanic, uh, um, uh, strange, you know, still going on and things haven't completely changed in the church in different countries.
I, I, I can believe it. I can believe it. People, you gotta get out of your own, uh, Frame of reference. I mean, things aren't always done the way Americans do things, or the way things are thought here. So, let's slip that in here, and we'll take some more calls, too. Folks want to talk with Larry, you're more than welcome to 800 990 9673 for ZZD.
He's Christian Music, 990 WZZD. To UFO from In Another Land, Part 3 of the trilogy. Larry Norman on the morning show at 707. Larry's in studio with us. You're welcome to call in at 800 990 WORD and say hey and ask questions or just give words of encouragement or whatever. I believe we have a Gil from Lansdale on the car phone.
Morning Gil. Hey, how you doing? Good, how are you? Good, good. Just wanted to offer a word of encouragement to Larry. Go right ahead. I just, um... I just can't say enough about what a blessing you've been in my life. I mean, I'm, I'm 38, I first saw you in concert when you were 16 at the Christian Cinema. And, um, then you sang a song.
I, I did, I saw this guy with the long hair who had never been invited to my church. And, and then, but when he started to minister his music, I mean, I remember people were taking pictures and flash pictures, and you were just like clowning around on the stage like, Okay, okay, everybody done. You know, and then you started singing.
But you sang the outlaw. And I'll tell you, I have, Today I'm a, I'm a chaplain at, at, at the prison ministry. And I've used that in so many messages, uh, The Outlaw, and uh, you've just blessed my life in a big way, and I saw you again when you were in Harleysville, and I really thank you for your ministry and the blessing you've been to so many people.
Thank you. Thanks very much. Gil, thanks for calling in. Alright, have a great day, guys. Alright, you too. Uh, who else do we have here, uh, Al from Ambler. Good morning, Al. Good morning. How you doing? Good. Fire away. I just wanted to let, uh, Larry know that, you know, I became a Christian in 88, shortly thereafter somebody, you know, let me into the Larry Norman experience, so to speak.
You know, and his music really influenced me in the fact that I could really, I could really hear the gospel in your message, you know, me to know what the Bible had to offer. You know, and I was really blessed by that, and I could just feel the power of Christ coming out of it. And just a quick question that I had was about, when you first started in your ministry, and you received a lot of opposition from the church and from people around you, what verse in the Bible, or what kept you going, what knew you were doing the Lord's will?
It wasn't my idea to do it. It wasn't my idea to go into music. It was my idea to get these kids at my school to come to church, but they wouldn't do it. So, I, uh, I felt that it's right, the Bible says, to witness in season and out of season. So I was witnessing to them at school, and, and when people started saying, what you're doing is wrong, I thought, it's not wrong to witness.
And when people said, this kind of music is not right, I thought, well, this, This music is about God, and you may not want to hear it, because it's liberating, too, but it's about God. And, you know, it was the kids wanted to hear it, not because it was rock, but because I was actually trying to give them something that I wasn't getting in my church experience, which was freedom.
I did not want them to think, or to experience, this aspect of Christianity, which was you were coming into, uh, A, you know, a domination from, uh, authority figures. When you become a Christian, you have to submit yourself to people that are telling you, uh, you can't wear those shoes. You've got to, you know, shine them.
Um, you have to comb your hair a certain way, and this is back in the fifties, you know, and, and most kids were already assimilating themselves into young adults by doing what they were told to do. But there were kids that wore jeans all the time. I, I grew up in a, a slum. I didn't even know it was a slum until we moved to a ghetto and then I found out, oh, we're poor, you know, and, uh, and we, you know, we had raggedy clothes, uh, blue jeans, uh, um, used shoes, you know, so, but some people act like, well, you're not dressed right to come to church.
So I didn't want people to, to, to, uh, continue to assume what they already, Believed from our culture was that to be a Christian, you had to have a nice set of clothes and you had to look right, you had to think right, and you, you know, there was no room for an individual's personality. So that's really what was embedded in these songs.
These songs are psychologically written to, to encourage people on different levels. Um, it was, that was what I felt my primary mission was, besides giving the gospel, was to also offer freedom for people, to let them know that if they're going to follow God, they weren't going to have to follow men. They were going to follow Jesus.
Thanks for calling in Al. You're welcome. Appreciate it. Have a great day. All right. Bye. Bye folks can come by. We're chatting with Larry Norman Grandfather father or whatever a founding father. I guess is the best way to put it of contemporary Christian music Larry's been doing it for many many years many many albums and three hours is not enough to jam in songs and comments and all That but we're doing our best here We're of course welcoming your calls or your chance to to chat with Larry this morning at 800 990 96, 73, Larry, uh, we have a couple more calls on hold which I'd like to get to in a moment, but how about we slip on another song?
Uh, Upon This Rock, is that, what's the first one you, you put out as far as Christian music goes? Is that the 100% Christian capital let me do this album the way I wanted to do. They didn't You know, have any problems with it by 1969. So this was the very first 100% album that I had control over. On here, some of the songs folks will remember.
Um, Walking Backwards Down the Stairs, Ha Ha World, Sweet Song of Salvation, Rebecca St. James mentioned it, it's covered that. Uh, Forget Your Hexagram, another one. Wish We'd All Been Ready, which we've played. Nothing Really Changes, and I thought we'd slip on You Can't Take Away the Lord. I thought that, that's a fun song, one of the ones I remember growing up on too.
Uh huh. And uh, why don't we slip that on here, we'll come back and... Chat with Larry Norman on The Morning Show. Today's Christian Music 990 WZZD. You can't take away the Lord from, uh, what... Larry, would I be right in saying the first, people would say in general, is considered the first Christian album ever?
Uh, yeah. Period. Well, Christian rock, I mean, there was gospel quartet albums. Right. And before that, there was... You know, and before that, and before that. Yeah. Well, there you go, folks. And you can buy, I believe this is, uh, you guys have brought copies of this and many other, uh, of your albums that folks are familiar with, uh, who are familiar with your work.
Uh, the concert happening at the Christian Cinema tomorrow night, seven o'clock. I'll be there helping MC and just get things going and Larry will take over and Larry loves to do what he's doing this morning, which is share music and stories and kind of go back and forth, right? Well, I don't really talk like this in a concert.
This is a radio show. That's true. Well, yeah, okay, there are different things, but one of the things we should mention for folks, and you can get more info, 215 628 4634 215 is, uh, you encourage for folks who are thinking about coming or maybe inviting a friend to go out, uh, to make it an evangelistic thing.
I know you love to share the gospel at these, uh, concerts that you do. Yeah, I think a lot of Christians are afraid to take their friends to a Christian concert because sometimes, uh, they're embarrassed by what happens at the concert, which you never think about until you're there with somebody. Who's your friend who's not a Christian and then you go, oh my gosh, and I didn't realize the you know It's like going to a movie with your mom or dad and suddenly someone's wearing this.
Oh my gosh, they're swearing. Yeah, someone's kissing. Whoops Yeah, so I for some reason people bring There are friends to my concerts because I they say that I never embarrass them. I never let them down They feel like it was music. It was entertaining. It was thoughtful and also spiritual and and it wasn't like Talking with a used car salesman that they really felt that it was a normal natural presentation of Christ.
So that's nice I mean, I'm glad that I'm doing something that people Thinking I'm doing a good, you know, whatever. Yeah, yeah. Tomorrow night, 7 o'clock, Christian Cinema, Ambler, 215 628 4634. We now bring in Todd from Warrington into the equation. Good morning, Todd. Good morning. Thanks for hanging on there.
How you doing? Doing quite well, thank you. Sure. Larry, it's great to have you in Philly. And, uh, I was just wondering, looking forward to seeing you tomorrow night. Uh, I was wondering if you might be able to squeeze the tune into your set list tomorrow night. And I was also wondering what you thought your best work was, both, uh, lyrically and musically.
Oh, well, different in the sixties upon this rock in the seventies, uh, only visiting this planet and in another land in the, I can jump ahead to the nineties, stranded in Babylon. Uh, different, different eras. I feel like I've, okay. This album is really capturing what people are going through. You know, I wouldn't, I mean, I wish I could make every album, uh, as good as I, as I, I mean, it is as good as I can, but I just, Sometimes I feel like, oh, okay, now I've stumbled.
And maybe it's because I've been thinking about this for a long time, and after doing several albums, I finally conclude. You know, with a new album that kind of sums up what I've been working away at. It's like if you're sculpting something, the whole time you're sculpting, the rock is changing. And you could stop at any time, and people would call it art.
But until you're satisfied and make the definitive version, you know, finally chip away that last piece of stone, people don't say, Oh, that's, don't do anymore. That's, that's, you know. So, being in, in the, you know, a lot of people who do music are not really artists. They're artisans. They're creating a craft.
It's like making shoes. They make really good shoes, make really good albums. They're not trying to do much more than make a good shoe, you know. I'm hoping to make supernatural shoes, and it's really hard because I'm just a human. Thanks for calling in. Very good, thanks. Appreciate it. Have a good day, Todd.
See you at the show tomorrow night. Uh, let's see, who do we have here? I believe it's, uh, is this Joe? Hi. Joe from Florence. Yes. Go right ahead. Good morning. Good morning. I was just going to, I wanted to thank Larry for his faithfulness and his willingness to serve God, no matter what the rest of the world was saying about him in the early 70s.
I remember I discovered his music in secular records. I didn't find it in Christian bookstores when I was in college, freshman in college. Larry's laughing, he's seen that story before. Yeah, and when I, when I was telling the person I talked to earlier that a lot of people got to listen to Larry Norman whether they wanted to or not because I opened my dorm room and let it blast.
It was really great because a lot of them would come and ask what kind of music that was I was playing. It even, it even touched them. It was, it was great music. But I had, uh, two questions. Actually, one of them's mine. I was wondering, Larry mentioned about a lot of other albums he's made, especially over in Europe.
I was wondering if those could be made available on his website. I know I visited there, and it's a lot of his old stuff's there, but I didn't see a lot of newer stuff. That was the first question. The second question was from my son. He's 12 years old, and he's a Larry Norman fan. He's been pulling out my old LPs, listening to them, and he really, really likes the music.
Just wanted you to know, Larry, your music's timeless. Oh, thank you. Because it's God, God inspired. And so, just keep it, keep it going. But he was wondering what the inspiration was behind Fly, Fly, Fly. All right. Thank you for calling, Joe. We'll, uh, you can, we'll hang up and you can listen on the radio, okay?
Okay, thanks. Great. Thanks a lot. Uh, yeah. The first thing is that the European stuff is available, uh, coming up, uh, on the website. And also, you could write to the, uh, To the company and in Oregon and and get European stuff like the new album. That's already out in Europe and fly fly fly It's it's a song about traveling trying, you know trying to do What God wants you to do in your life, do your job.
And then, and then at the same time, wanting to be home with your family instead of always being, catching an airplane and going somewhere else. It's, it's trying to achieve a balance between, uh, you know, fly, fly, fly is like a, uh, well, you fly, don't you? Uh, do I fly? , ? It's a's a hell of a plane. Yes. It's a, it's a special feeling to, to be up in the air.
Oh, well, that's, you're one of your friends who's in town with us, uh, who's visiting? Oh, yeah. Well, he likes, well, he's a pilot. He, well, he skydives. Yeah, he skydives too. Yeah. Yeah. Why not? But, uh, when you're flying, it's a special thing, so you wanna, you wanna, you know, run and not be worried and be lifted up, like, you know it, like on s uh, wings of Eagles, and, but at the same time, you wanna be down on the earth and.
And with your family. So, it's just about being caught between the heavenly, uh, hopes and the, the earthly, uh, necessities of life. Let's, uh, also, we got, uh, I want to slip a song in here, uh, in a moment, but let's, uh, take care of, I believe it's, is it, uh, Jane in Langhorne? John. John. Oh, sorry. It's, uh, couldn't read the writing here.
Go ahead, John. Okay, hey. Hi, Larry. Hi. Um, I, I saw you every time you were in Philadelphia in the past. Uh, But because, uh, uh, well, the way things are today, I won't be able to see you tomorrow, but anyway. Uh, I just wanted to let you know that when I got saved in 76, I was, you know, just an old hippie drug addict that was in a drug rehab in a Christian home.
And they had, uh, some old amps sitting around, and one of them was, must have been yours, I guess. But it had yours, you know, it had, um, it was a compilation of other artists. But they had, uh, you know, which we'd all been ready on. and on it. And so I was listening to it and uh, and this guy who was on staff at the time comes in the room and rips the thing off the stereo, smashes it in front of us and starts screaming that we were listening to the Devil's music.
And I said, this is ridiculous, . Wow. What's going on? It's a Christian home. It's a Christian album. What do you mean the devil's music? And it was all because of your song? Yeah. And I just want to encourage. That part of you, you know, that this is great, you know, you are doing exactly what you say in your lyrics.
You're just standing up for the Lord. But you know, something happened in the 80s. I don't know what it was, but I started hearing rumors about you. And I just didn't know what to believe because you weren't around. And I, I heard earlier that you went off to Europe. So, I didn't keep track with you in the 80s.
And now I'm hearing you back in town now. And I heard like a year ago or so, you had the heart problem. And I'm... Yeah. I hate to hear your pattern. We will get into that in a little bit, John. Thank you for calling in, okay? No problem. We're gonna talk about that. That's one reason we'd love to have you on is just to be able to do that.
Uh, I'll tell you what, we're at 724. Can I slip in up in Canada? Okay. That's a personal favorite song of mine. Oh, right. I've enjoyed. It's, uh, So Long Ago in the Garden. We'll come back after this. We have Traffic and Weather with Johnny B. And we'll, uh, take your calls at 800 990 WORD. Larry Norman, the... Uh, the founding father of contemporary Christian music in the studio with us this morning and doing a concert tomorrow night at the Christian Cinema in Ambler.
800 990 9673 for more info on any of those things, or if you'd like to chat with Larry this morning on ZZD. Today's Christian music, 990 WZZD from so long ago in the garden. That's, uh, up in Canada.
WZZD Interview - why don't you look into jesus
WZZD interview - Reader's digest
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Four [Spoken]
Alice is a drag queen
Bowie's somewhere in between
Other bands are looking mean
Me, I'm trying to stay clean
I don't dig the radio
I hate what the charts pick
Rock and roll may not be dead
But it's getting sick
All over the world disc jockeys talk the same
And every town I play is like the one from where I came
The Rolling Stones are millionaires
Flower children pallbearers
Beatles said all you need is love
And then they broke up
Jimi took an overdose
Janis followed so close
The whole music scene and
All the bands are pretty comatose
This time last year, people didn't wanna hear
They looked at Jesus from afar
This year he's a superstar
Dear John, who's more popular now
I've been listening to Paul's records
I think he really is dead
It's 1973, I wonder who we're gonna see
Who's in power now
I think I'll turn on the TV
The man on the news said
China's gonna beat us
We shot all our dreamers
And there's no one left to lead us
We need a solution, we need salvation
Let's send some people to the moon
And gather information
They brought back a big bag of rocks
Only cost thirteen billion
Must be nice rocks
You think it's such a sad thing
When you see a fallen king
Then you find out they're only princes to begin with
And everybody has to choose
Whether they'll win or lose
Follow God or sing the blues
And who they're gonna sin with
What a mess the world is in
I wonder who began it
Don't ask me, I'm only visiting this planet
This world is not my home
I'm just passing through
Four [Spoken]
Alice is a drag queen
Bowie's somewhere in between
Other bands are looking mean
Me, I'm trying to stay clean
I don't dig the radio
I hate what the charts pick
Rock and roll may not be dead
But it's getting sick
All over the world disc jockeys talk the same
And every town I play is like the one from where I came
The Rolling Stones are millionaires
Flower children pallbearers
Beatles said all you need is love
And then they broke up
Jimi took an overdose
Janis followed so close
The whole music scene and
All the bands are pretty comatose
This time last year, people didn't wanna hear
They looked at Jesus from afar
This year he's a superstar
Dear John, who's more popular now
I've been listening to Paul's records
I think he really is dead
It's 1973, I wonder who we're gonna see
Who's in power now
I think I'll turn on the TV
The man on the news said
China's gonna beat us
We shot all our dreamers
And there's no one left to lead us
We need a solution, we need salvation
Let's send some people to the moon
And gather information
They brought back a big bag of rocks
Only cost thirteen billion
Must be nice rocks
You think it's such a sad thing
When you see a fallen king
Then you find out they're only princes to begin with
And everybody has to choose
Whether they'll win or lose
Follow God or sing the blues
And who they're gonna sin with
What a mess the world is in
I wonder who began it
Don't ask me, I'm only visiting this planet
This world is not my home
I'm just passing through
wzzd interview - why should the devil have all the good music
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A one two a one two three
I want the people to know
That he saved my soul
But I still like to listen to the radio
They say rock and roll is wrong
We'll give you one more chance
I say I feel so good I gotta get up and dance
I know what's right, I know what's wrong
I don't confuse it
All I'm really trying to say is
Why should the devil have all the good music
An’ I feel good every day
Because Jesus is the rock and he rolled my blues away
A one two a one two three
I want the people to know
That he saved my soul
But I still like to listen to the radio
They say rock and roll is wrong
We'll give you one more chance
I say I feel so good I gotta get up and dance
I know what's right, I know what's wrong
I don't confuse it
All I'm really trying to say is
Why should the devil have all the good music
An’ I feel good every day
Because Jesus is the rock and he rolled my blues away
wzzd interview - i wish we'd all been ready
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Life was filled with guns and war
And everyone got trampled on the floor
I wish we'd all been ready
Children died, the days grew cold
A piece of bread could buy a bag of gold
I wish we'd all been ready
There's no time to change your mind
The son has come and you've been left behind
A man and wife asleep in bed
She hears a noise and turns her head, he's gone
I wish we'd all been ready
Two men walking up a hill
One disappears and one's left standing still
I wish we'd all been ready
There's no time to change your mind
The son has come and you've been left behind
La la la la la la la
La la la la la la la la la la
La la
Life was filled with guns and war
And everyone got trampled on the floor
I wish we'd all been ready
Children died, the days grew cold
A piece of bread could buy a bag of gold
I wish we'd all been ready
There's no time to change your mind
How could you have been so blind
The father spoke, the demons dined
The son has come and you've been left behind
You've been left behind [x3]
(Ah ah ah) [Repeated and harmonised to end]
Life was filled with guns and war
And everyone got trampled on the floor
I wish we'd all been ready
Children died, the days grew cold
A piece of bread could buy a bag of gold
I wish we'd all been ready
There's no time to change your mind
The son has come and you've been left behind
A man and wife asleep in bed
She hears a noise and turns her head, he's gone
I wish we'd all been ready
Two men walking up a hill
One disappears and one's left standing still
I wish we'd all been ready
There's no time to change your mind
The son has come and you've been left behind
La la la la la la la
La la la la la la la la la la
La la
Life was filled with guns and war
And everyone got trampled on the floor
I wish we'd all been ready
Children died, the days grew cold
A piece of bread could buy a bag of gold
I wish we'd all been ready
There's no time to change your mind
How could you have been so blind
The father spoke, the demons dined
The son has come and you've been left behind
You've been left behind [x3]
(Ah ah ah) [Repeated and harmonised to end]
wzzd interview - the rock that doesn't roll
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Woo
I was lost and blind then a friend of mine
Came and took me by the hand
Then he led me to his kingdom
That was in another land
Now my life has changed, it's rearranged
When I think of my past I feel so strange
Wowie zowie well he saved my soul
He's the rock that doesn't roll
He's the rock that doesn't roll
He's the rock that doesn't roll
Well he's good for the body and great for the soul
He's the rock that doesn't roll
I was all alone like a rolling stone
I was going nowhere fast
I was on the road so far from home
When the future touched my past
Now I feel so blessed 'cause he gave me a rest
And I finally feel like I've passed the test
I wanna be like him, yes that's my goal
Like a rock that doesn't roll
Oh he's the rock that doesn't roll
He's the rock that doesn't roll
Well he's good for the body and great for the soul
He's the rock that doesn't roll
Ah-ow-yow
I was lost and blind then a friend of mine
Came and took me by the hand
And he led me to his kingdom
That was in another land
Now my mind is blown, my head has grown
A solid rock ain't a rolling stone
Wowie zowie well the cat's got soul
He's the rock that doesn't roll
Well, he's the rock that doesn't roll (he's the rock that doesn't roll)
He's the rock that doesn't roll (he's the rock that doesn't roll)
You know he's good for the body and great for the soul
He's the rock that doesn't
Rock that doesn't
Rock that doesn't
Rock that doesn't roll
You've got to rock me on the water
You've got to rock me from my grave
You've got to rock me till I'm feeling good
You've got to rock me till I'm, rock me till I'm saved
He's the rock that doesn't roll
Well he's the rock that doesn't roll
Well he's good for the body and great for the soul
He's the rock that doesn't roll
I wanna tell you
He's the rock that doesn't roll
He's the rock that doesn't roll
Well he's good for the body and great for the soul
He's the rock that doesn't roll
Woo
I was lost and blind then a friend of mine
Came and took me by the hand
Then he led me to his kingdom
That was in another land
Now my life has changed, it's rearranged
When I think of my past I feel so strange
Wowie zowie well he saved my soul
He's the rock that doesn't roll
He's the rock that doesn't roll
He's the rock that doesn't roll
Well he's good for the body and great for the soul
He's the rock that doesn't roll
I was all alone like a rolling stone
I was going nowhere fast
I was on the road so far from home
When the future touched my past
Now I feel so blessed 'cause he gave me a rest
And I finally feel like I've passed the test
I wanna be like him, yes that's my goal
Like a rock that doesn't roll
Oh he's the rock that doesn't roll
He's the rock that doesn't roll
Well he's good for the body and great for the soul
He's the rock that doesn't roll
Ah-ow-yow
I was lost and blind then a friend of mine
Came and took me by the hand
And he led me to his kingdom
That was in another land
Now my mind is blown, my head has grown
A solid rock ain't a rolling stone
Wowie zowie well the cat's got soul
He's the rock that doesn't roll
Well, he's the rock that doesn't roll (he's the rock that doesn't roll)
He's the rock that doesn't roll (he's the rock that doesn't roll)
You know he's good for the body and great for the soul
He's the rock that doesn't
Rock that doesn't
Rock that doesn't
Rock that doesn't roll
You've got to rock me on the water
You've got to rock me from my grave
You've got to rock me till I'm feeling good
You've got to rock me till I'm, rock me till I'm saved
He's the rock that doesn't roll
Well he's the rock that doesn't roll
Well he's good for the body and great for the soul
He's the rock that doesn't roll
I wanna tell you
He's the rock that doesn't roll
He's the rock that doesn't roll
Well he's good for the body and great for the soul
He's the rock that doesn't roll
wzzd interview - UFO
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He's an unidentified flying object
You will see him in the air
He's an unidentified flying object
And you will drop your hands and stare
You will be afraid to tell your neighbors
They might think that it's not true
But when you open up the morning papers
You will know they've seen it too
He will come back like he promised
With the price already paid
He will gather up his followers
And take them all away
He's an unidentified flying object
He will sweep down from the sky
He's an unidentified flying object
And some will sleep but will not die
He's an unidentified flying object
Coming back to take you home
He's an unidentified flying object
He will roll away your stone
And if there's life on other planets
Then I'm sure that he must know
And he's been there once already
And has died to save their souls
He's an unidentified flying object
You will see him in the air
He's an unidentified flying object
And you will drop your hands and stare
Well he's an unidentified flying object
Coming back to take you home
He's an unidentified flying object
He will roll away your stone
Hi-ya-ah-wa-waoh wo-oh-oh-ah-woh
He's an unidentified flying object
You will see him in the air
He's an unidentified flying object
And you will drop your hands and stare
You will be afraid to tell your neighbors
They might think that it's not true
But when you open up the morning papers
You will know they've seen it too
He will come back like he promised
With the price already paid
He will gather up his followers
And take them all away
He's an unidentified flying object
He will sweep down from the sky
He's an unidentified flying object
And some will sleep but will not die
He's an unidentified flying object
Coming back to take you home
He's an unidentified flying object
He will roll away your stone
And if there's life on other planets
Then I'm sure that he must know
And he's been there once already
And has died to save their souls
He's an unidentified flying object
You will see him in the air
He's an unidentified flying object
And you will drop your hands and stare
Well he's an unidentified flying object
Coming back to take you home
He's an unidentified flying object
He will roll away your stone
Hi-ya-ah-wa-waoh wo-oh-oh-ah-woh
wzzd interview - you can't take away the lord
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Ah
You can take away my kids
Take away my wife
You can take away my job
And you can take away my life
You can take away my house
Take away my Ford
But you can't take away the Lord
Now listen Satan
You just can't take away the church
Or the bible book
Unless you wanna waste your time
You better take a second look
'Cause you can't take away my shield
Can't take away my sword
And you can't take away the Lord
Well he made me and he saved me, ba ba ba
And I follow after
Everywhere he leads
There's peace and laughter
Laughing in the spirit
Listen and you'll hear it
You can take away the pill
And the atom bomb
Take away Einstein's theories
And the things all yet to come
You could'a took away the wheel
With the dinosaur
But you can't take away the Lord, oh no
Well he made me and he saved me, ba ba ba ba-ow
And I follow after
Everywhere he leads
There's peace and laughter
Laughing in the spirit
Listen and you'll hear it
You can take away the pill, wooh
And the atom bomb
Take away Einstein's theories
And the things all yet to come
You could'a took away the wheel
With the dinosaur
But you can't take away the Lord
Na na na no you'll never take away
My sweet reward
'Cause you can't take away the Lord
Ah
You can take away my kids
Take away my wife
You can take away my job
And you can take away my life
You can take away my house
Take away my Ford
But you can't take away the Lord
Now listen Satan
You just can't take away the church
Or the bible book
Unless you wanna waste your time
You better take a second look
'Cause you can't take away my shield
Can't take away my sword
And you can't take away the Lord
Well he made me and he saved me, ba ba ba
And I follow after
Everywhere he leads
There's peace and laughter
Laughing in the spirit
Listen and you'll hear it
You can take away the pill
And the atom bomb
Take away Einstein's theories
And the things all yet to come
You could'a took away the wheel
With the dinosaur
But you can't take away the Lord, oh no
Well he made me and he saved me, ba ba ba ba-ow
And I follow after
Everywhere he leads
There's peace and laughter
Laughing in the spirit
Listen and you'll hear it
You can take away the pill, wooh
And the atom bomb
Take away Einstein's theories
And the things all yet to come
You could'a took away the wheel
With the dinosaur
But you can't take away the Lord
Na na na no you'll never take away
My sweet reward
'Cause you can't take away the Lord
wzzd interview - up in canada
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When I was up in Canada
I didn't have much money
You know my toes were cold
And my clothes had holes
My nose was kind of runny
I met a long-hair on the street
He said look you look like you'd like to eat
I said a glass of coke and a hotdog's fine
He said well how 'bout some bread and a glass of wine
I said lead me on, lead me on, lead me on
Lead me on where you're going
I said my body's tired but my heart's inspired
My hunger's growing
Lead me on, lead me on, lead me on
Lead me on where you're going
I said my body's tired but my heart's inspired
My hunger's growing
He took a loaf of Wonder Bread
Then he bowed his head
Then he filled my cup, drink it up my friend
It tasted better than the health food blend
He looked straight in to my eyes
I was quite surprised
He said you're locked inside but I can set you free
You will live forever if you follow me
I said lead me on, lead me on, lead me on
Lead me on where you're going, wo-oh
I said my body's tired but my heart's inspired
My hunger's growing, wo-oh
A-lead me on, lead me on, lead me on
Lead me on where you're going, oh-oh-oh
I said my body's tired and my heart's inspired
My hunger's growing
Ah, when I was up in Canada
I didn't have much money
You know my toes were cold
And my clothes had holes
And my nose was kinda runny
It wasn't funny
I met a long-hair on the street
He said look you look like you'd like to eat
I said a glass of coke and a hotdog's fine
He said well how 'bout some bread and a glass of wine
I said lead me on, lead me on, lead me on
Lead me on where you're going, wo-oh
I said my body's tired but my heart's inspired
My hunger's growing, wo-oh
A-lead me on, lead me on, lead me on
Lead me on where you're going, wo-oh
I said my body's tired but my heart's inspired
My hunger's growing
I said break
Lead me on
Ah lead me on, lead me on, lead me on (Ah-ha)
Lead me on where you're going, wo-oh (Ah ha)
I said my body's tired but my heart's inspired (Ah-ha)
My hunger's growing, was it showing (Ah ha)
Lead me on, lead me on, lead me on (Ah-ha)
Lead me on where you're going, wo-oh (Ah ha)
I said my body's tired but my heart's inspired (Ah-ha)
My hunger's growing (Ah ha)
Hope it don't start snowing
Lead me on, lead me on, lead me on (Ah-ha)
Lead me on where you're going wo-oh (Ah ha)
When I was up in Canada
I didn't have much money
You know my toes were cold
And my clothes had holes
My nose was kind of runny
I met a long-hair on the street
He said look you look like you'd like to eat
I said a glass of coke and a hotdog's fine
He said well how 'bout some bread and a glass of wine
I said lead me on, lead me on, lead me on
Lead me on where you're going
I said my body's tired but my heart's inspired
My hunger's growing
Lead me on, lead me on, lead me on
Lead me on where you're going
I said my body's tired but my heart's inspired
My hunger's growing
He took a loaf of Wonder Bread
Then he bowed his head
Then he filled my cup, drink it up my friend
It tasted better than the health food blend
He looked straight in to my eyes
I was quite surprised
He said you're locked inside but I can set you free
You will live forever if you follow me
I said lead me on, lead me on, lead me on
Lead me on where you're going, wo-oh
I said my body's tired but my heart's inspired
My hunger's growing, wo-oh
A-lead me on, lead me on, lead me on
Lead me on where you're going, oh-oh-oh
I said my body's tired and my heart's inspired
My hunger's growing
Ah, when I was up in Canada
I didn't have much money
You know my toes were cold
And my clothes had holes
And my nose was kinda runny
It wasn't funny
I met a long-hair on the street
He said look you look like you'd like to eat
I said a glass of coke and a hotdog's fine
He said well how 'bout some bread and a glass of wine
I said lead me on, lead me on, lead me on
Lead me on where you're going, wo-oh
I said my body's tired but my heart's inspired
My hunger's growing, wo-oh
A-lead me on, lead me on, lead me on
Lead me on where you're going, wo-oh
I said my body's tired but my heart's inspired
My hunger's growing
I said break
Lead me on
Ah lead me on, lead me on, lead me on (Ah-ha)
Lead me on where you're going, wo-oh (Ah ha)
I said my body's tired but my heart's inspired (Ah-ha)
My hunger's growing, was it showing (Ah ha)
Lead me on, lead me on, lead me on (Ah-ha)
Lead me on where you're going, wo-oh (Ah ha)
I said my body's tired but my heart's inspired (Ah-ha)
My hunger's growing (Ah ha)
Hope it don't start snowing
Lead me on, lead me on, lead me on (Ah-ha)
Lead me on where you're going wo-oh (Ah ha)
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Solid Rock Productions PPK 001 [1999, USA]
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Kode: FT-US1
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16 page booklet with images and write ups
Matrix disc one, on disc rear in reverse: 'AD/CA', '36885 1 6 <8011> FATHER1 WAVELENGTH', 'IFPI L487'. Mould markings, not reversed: 'IFPI 8137'
Matrix disc two, on disc rear in reverse: 'AD/CA', '36886 1 6 <8011> FATHER2 WAVELENGTH', 'IFPI L487'. Mould markings, not reversed: 'AD/CA', 'IFPI 8155'
Matrix disc one, on disc rear in reverse: 'AD/CA', '36885 1 6 <8011> FATHER1 WAVELENGTH', 'IFPI L487'. Mould markings, not reversed: 'IFPI 8137'
Matrix disc two, on disc rear in reverse: 'AD/CA', '36886 1 6 <8011> FATHER2 WAVELENGTH', 'IFPI L487'. Mould markings, not reversed: 'AD/CA', 'IFPI 8155'